Give us the chance to re-play coil during week (without rewards)!!!

[Garnatian]

Adding that system would make it an extremely effective way to sell coil runs and gear people out.

The people who've run Coil since launch and not got a single piece of gear would say otherwise.

This is such an absolutely stupid argument. This potential "issue" exists in the majority of MMOs, is it a problem in those? NO! So why make the game worse by decreasing the potential content just because a few people could purchase their way through a Coil run (and chances are, get zero loot).

[Noahlimits]

The people who've run Coil since launch and not got a single piece of gear would say otherwise.

Didn't you see other posts? Shouts like "10 mil for a coil run, you get ALL drops" would happen. At least they'd be guaranteed 8 drops of gear. Even if they couldn't currently use it.

[Garnatian]

Didn't you see other posts? Shouts like "10 mil for a coil run, you get ALL drops" would happen. At least they'd be guaranteed 8 drops of gear. Even if they couldn't currently use it.

...Urgh, just go away. The fact that you even suggest that enough people can generate millions of gil every week just to purchase Coil runs to create an issue is just laughable.

[Nowhere2Be]

...Urgh, just go away. The fact that you even suggest that enough people can generate millions of gil every week just to purchase Coil runs to create an issue is just laughable.

The fact that you think people won't spend money for coil runs is laughable. it will happen. Look at Titan Runs.

[Garnatian]

The fact that you think people won't spend money for coil runs is laughable. it will happen. Look at Titan Runs.

I doubt it would really be as high as 10 million, but runs WOULD happen. To say they wouldn't would be naive. And people CAN make millions of gil every week, it all depends on how much you play.

...Where did I say no one would?

You people don't seem to understand that the chance of getting no loot in Coil is high, so high in fact that you can go months without any loot. Also, the cost of running people through this would be extremely high, so high that a very small percentile of players could purchase a run. This is nothing like Titan.

Urgh, why the hell do I even have to explain this, use some common fricking sense. The issue would be so pathetically small it would AFFECT NO ONE. God, I try not to get annoyed with people on this forum, but when people actively try to kill the game with their stupid suggestions it annoys the heck out of me.

[Nowhere2Be]

Getting loot is purely RNG, it's not like the game is set to where you have a high/low chance, you either get lucky or you don't. I have personally been very fortunate with coil drops, other's in my group? Not so much. Regardless of drop chance or not though, this method proposed would make coil runs happen and all that happens is people just lining up single file paying the "best" free companies on the server to carry them for gear they didn't "earn properly." The price would be high, people would pay for it, maybe not everyone, it would be a niche market, but that's enough for the companies selling it, what else are you gonna after your group clears coil.

[Billie21]

Getting loot is purely RNG, it's not like the game is set to where you have a high/low chance, you either get lucky or you don't. I have personally been very fortunate with coil drops, other's in my group? Not so much. Regardless of drop chance or not though, this method proposed would make coil runs happen and all that happens is people just lining up single file paying the "best" free companies on the server to carry them for gear they didn't "earn properly." The price would be high, people would pay for it, maybe not everyone, it would be a niche market, but that's enough for the companies selling it, what else are you gonna after your group clears coil.

Aaaaand that would be bad because...?

[Noahlimits]

...Where did I say no one would?

You people don't seem to understand that the chance of getting no loot in Coil is high, so high in fact that you can go months without any loot. Also, the cost of running people through this would be extremely high, so high in fact that a very small percentile of players could purchase a run.

Do you honestly think all of those high level FCs that clear all of coil in 2 hours wouldn't sell the runs for a respectable price? And since the FC already got all their drops for the week, the person buying would get EVERY DROP. Granted, most of it wouldn't be stuff they're looking for, but still worth it. I could see them selling T1-4 runs for 2 mil considering it takes them about an hour and Titan runs are as low as 100k now.

So you saying 'chance of getting no loot in Coil is high' is moot, since they'd still get 6-8 drops out of it. Alt coil gear is better than no coil gear.

[Nowhere2Be]

Do you honestly think all of those high level FCs that clear all of coil in 2 hours wouldn't sell the runs for a respectable price? And since the FC already got all their drops for the week, the person buying would get EVERY DROP. Granted, most of it wouldn't be stuff they're looking for, but still worth it. I could see them selling T1-4 runs for 2 mil considering it takes them about an hour and Titan runs are as low as 100k now.

So you saying 'chance of getting no loot in Coil is high' is moot, since they'd still get 6-8 drops out of it. Alt coil gear is better than no coil gear.

Exactly. If they're paying for the run, all the gear goes to them un-contested. Maybe they won't get all pieces for their main class, but getting 8 random pieces just for you....that is absurd, you could start gearing out other classes so quickly.

[Noahlimits]

...Urgh, just go away. The fact that you even suggest that enough people can generate millions of gil every week just to purchase Coil runs to create an issue is just laughable.

I doubt it would really be as high as 10 million, but runs WOULD happen. To say they wouldn't would be naive. And people CAN make millions of gil every week, it all depends on how much you play.