Allagan Gear getting buffed to ilvl95.

[Skyl1n3]

Absolutely. why dont we have myth drops from brayflox or halatali then? since the level of content you do shouldnt matter and should get you the very best. you should never, ever be able to get lvl.90 items from lvl.50 content. plain and simple.

That's the thing, if you choose to do Coil you can have the opportunity to get ilvl90 gear right away after clearing Turns, but for places like AK and WP you don't get it right away and instead have to save for weeks (due to caps) to be able to afford ilvl90 Myth gear.

I could go into a casino and win a fortune by betting more challenging high stakes and get rich quick, or I could keep betting small stakes and keep building and building up to that big fortune... but it will take longer.

[Hanabira]

..ial treatment. That's why it makes a lot more sense that allagan weapons would be receiving the boost, because T5 is much more of an accomplishment.

Never mind the fact that Yoshi's whole philosophy behind the existence of gear purchasable with currency counters this argument you and others are placing that people unable/unwilling to play coil are somehow lazy and greedy. Read here to see Yoshi P.'s idea behind the system. Whether you agree with it or not, a lot of games have moved to adopt similar systems over the past decade.

the only game to move over to the system where you can get the best stuff in the game by doing relatively little is GW2.. and i believe wit the ascended gear, they stopped doing that too because its dumb.

That's the thing, if you choose to do Coil you can have the opportunity to get ilvl90 gear right away after clearing Turns, but for places like AK and WP you don't get it right away and instead have to save for weeks (due to caps) to be able to afford ilvl90 Myth gear.

I could go into a casino and win a fortune by betting more challenging high stakes and get rich quick, or I could keep betting small stakes and keep building and building up to that big fortune... but it will take longer.

As i said before, i have no problems with a token system, the problem is the tokens are obtained from content FAR below the level of the rewards. Its like story mode garuda dropping her hard mode weapons.. you wouldnt find that strange?

[Calyanare]

Yes there should be a token system in place, but it should NOT be in significantly easier content. if you want ilvl90 gear, you run ilvl90 content, sure there is a lack of variety with ilvl 90 content, but that doesnt mean ilvl50 stuff should be used for it. How is this not making any sense? lol. it has nothing to do with the effort you put in to get your gear. Like i asked before, when we have ilvl110+ gear, should you also be able to spam WP to get it?

So AK, being designed for ilvl50-55 and dropping ilvl60, shouldn't drop myth tomes either? Are you saying that only Coil should drop myth tomes? That's what it sounds like you're saying.

[zdub303]

So AK, being designed for ilvl50-55 and dropping ilvl60, shouldn't drop myth tomes either? Are you saying that only Coil should drop myth tomes? That's what it sounds like you're saying.

Actually that is probably correct. Coil, HM Titan, EM Primals and HM dungeons (with an i70 requirement) should probably have been the only instances that reward myth tomes.

[OxTitan]

Who the hell was asking devs this idiocity? some " l33t raider" crybabies ?

The weapon upgrade seems fair to me. Titan HM gives relics (an easy level 80 weapon). Defeating Coil T5 will takes more than the time that it takes to get a + 1 unless you have a super awesome group. You don't even have to try to get a relic + 1. It comes to you in 3 weeks.

My group hasn't even cleared T4 yet. I know how easy it is to get a + 1 relic. I have two relic + 1. I believe I will have four relic + 1 by the time my group defeats T5.

This is a MMO game, you will never be the same as someone who spends more time than you in-game. The real world isn't much different. People get where they are at usually because they have worked harder than the other person. They have spent more time grinding their life at a specific job. This is why they become professionals at what they do.

Edit:
Don't forget extreme primals are now dropping weapons the same level as relic + 1. So you don't even need to wait 3 weeks if your group is able to clear the extreme modes within this time.

[Hanabira]

So AK, being designed for ilvl50-55 and dropping ilvl60, shouldn't drop myth tomes either? Are you saying that only Coil should drop myth tomes? That's what it sounds like you're saying.

Thats exactly what im saying, AK shouldnt have it either, it would be a stretch for CT to have it since its rewards are lvl80. Yes there is a lack of ilvl90 options, but hey, its a brand new game, what do you want?

please someone tell me why you cant get a garuda axe from story mode garuda. answer the question in a way where it makes sense that ilvl90 gear comes from ilvl 55 content. its the same argument.

i will step down from this argument if anyone can do this. Since garuda is ilvl40(?) and hard mode is 60... 20 ilvl gap.. then with that range, it should be perfectly ok right?? since currently you can get ilvl 90 stuff from 55, a 35 level gap.

[Skyl1n3]

please someone tell me why you cant get a garuda axe from story mode garuda.

Because at the time of fighting HM Garuda in the main story you'll only be level 44-46 and Primal Weapons require your character to be lvl50 so it wouldn't make sense giving you a weapon at that point which you cannot use, lol :P

[Hanabira]

Because at the time of fighting HM Garuda in the main story you'll only be level 44-46 and Primal Weapons require your character to be lvl50 so it wouldn't make sense, lol :P

LOL.. touche'

[Aethaeryn]

the only game to move over to the system where you can get the best stuff in the game by doing relatively little is GW2.. and i believe wit the ascended gear, they stopped doing that too because its dumb.

As i said before, i have no problems with a token system, the problem is the tokens are obtained from content FAR below the level of the rewards. Its like story mode garuda dropping her hard mode weapons.. you wouldnt find that strange?

GW2 is definitely not the only game to add a system where you could get similar gear through artificially gated content. GW2 and FFXIV may be the only two AAA games that made it a bit easier to do that. I won't mention the taboo MMO here, but another example is Aion. When 3.0 hit, you had a few options: Run Tiamat Stronghold for gear, do a quest line for gear (a questline that was far more time consuming and expensive), or collect kahrun coins to exchange for gear on an NPC. This is just one example, but definitely not the only game to place some non-raiding endgame progression that was comparable.

And yes, I get your point on how you feel Coil being a bit harder should yield much better rewards than mythology. But that's not the philosophy Yoshi P. had in mind, so it's up to him ultimately if he wants to change his stance on it now. Also need to keep in mind that this is still a new game, and T6+ with 2.2 might yield much better rewards than whatever token gear that may or may not be added at the same time.

[zdub303]

Thats exactly what im saying, AK shouldnt have it either, it would be a stretch for CT to have it since its rewards are lvl80. Yes there is a lack of ilvl90 options, but hey, its a brand new game, what do you want?

please someone tell me why you cant get a garuda axe from story mode garuda. answer the question in a way where it makes sense that ilvl90 gear comes from ilvl 55 content. its the same argument.

i will step down from this argument if anyone can do this,

Level sync is the reason that would make sense. You level sync to under level 50, and therefore you shouldn't be seeing weapons drop that you cannot equip. But in WP you are getting tomes to equip gear that requires level 50 (both i70 and i90 are equipable by a level 50 character). It isn't a good reason but its the only one that makes sense imo.