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  1. #161
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    Syn Maris
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    If DF players weren't so bad I wouldn't mind playing with them, but I have a good FC and I want to play with them. Horrible design choices. Wildstar keeps looking better and better.
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  2. #162
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    Tristan Catari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    The amount of butthurt over a slightly delayed aspect of one part of the patch is getting rather hilarious.

    If you have a large FC that wants to run 24 man premades ....

    Wait one more patch for that functionality!

    In the meantime, the rest of us who don't mind playing with strangers will enjoy what Crystal Tower offers.
    That's a good 5 to 6 months out. FCs will have imploded by then over loot/progression drama. In the best case scenario, they'll implode because they've cleared BC in one night, the CT content is so faceroll that you don't even need to strategize(trivial meaningless content for those players), and the only thing holding the FC together is extreme mode primals that only drops weapons. This industry is far too quick paced to make fatal mistakes like this. You cannot use the excuse, "Just wait til patch". By the time the next patch comes out, there will be 1 or 2 new games in open beta, releasing, etc. If SE keeps making these horrible judgement mistakes, their retention rate is going to go way down.
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    Last edited by Thriar; 11-23-2013 at 01:47 AM.

  3. #163
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Wait one more patch for that functionality!.
    Tell people this when waiting for money from unemployment or even other MMOs that has a lack of end-game content. "Don't like it? JUST WAIT! KEEP WAITING!"

    Go on, let me know the results.
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  4. #164
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    Suellen Harkwyn
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    My question is does this mean we are required to go with 6 tanks. And how are these encounters going to be structured so that 6 tanks doesn't feel utterly comical.
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Pre-made parties are not subject to the retry timer if they leave an instance. This will lead to frustration due to many parties starting and leaving until they get paired up with their own people and SE will eventually need to change it.
    Not to mention if a group of server randoms form up and a guy get their one treasure, there's nothing really stopping them from bailing. (pulled this from Rein's translation, it said you'll only be able to win one item per run)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    The amount of butthurt over a slightly delayed aspect of one part of the patch is getting rather hilarious.

    If you have a large FC that wants to run 24 man premades ....

    Wait one more patch for that functionality!

    In the meantime, the rest of us who don't mind playing with strangers will enjoy what Crystal Tower offers.
    It's bad enough CT was held out of official release, but now we're supposed to be complacent with the fact we're even getting it and can't even fully utilize our FC members to run it?
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    Last edited by Orophin; 11-23-2013 at 01:54 AM.

  6. #166
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    Kheima Rayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suellen View Post
    My question is does this mean we are required to go with 6 tanks. And how are these encounters going to be structured so that 6 tanks doesn't feel utterly comical.
    This thought made me laugh(still laughing) more then it should. lololololol
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  7. #167
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    Dashuto Moragan
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    When did anyone ever start assuming it was going to be anything but duty finder centric? They mentioned duty finder repeatedly ever since they first spoke about it, and said its not like Coil. I could tell from the beginning that something like this was going to go on, especially since they had originally intended it as pathed content before coil. You use DF for everything else but Chimera, Hydra, etc.

    People are massively over reacting to this. Most FC's I am aware of could not even muster 24 whole people for such an event.

    No choice was taken from you, it was never stated to begin with, and it should have been assumed you would use DF the entire time.
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  8. #168
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    Tristan Catari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suellen View Post
    My question is does this mean we are required to go with 6 tanks. And how are these encounters going to be structured so that 6 tanks doesn't feel utterly comical.
    The way I read/saw it was this really isn't going to be true 24 man content. It'll be 3 parties of 8 doing their own thing with their own objective with their own loot. Even looking at screenshots, you can see 3 divided platforms, 3 "bosses" per room, etc. Only the last boss seems like it'll be the only boss where you'd potentially need just 2 tanks. Otherwise, it's just minor coordination between the parties in the alliance(I'll get quotes if I need to). These devs say they have played other western MMOs but I swear... it's like they got someone else to play them and they just got a really really bad translation of what the western MMO really entails.
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashuto View Post
    When did anyone ever start assuming it was going to be anything but duty finder centric?
    Be real. The very fact you can go into any other duty finder/instanced (Coil) content with premade people, why in any stretch of the imagination would someone figure you wouldn't be able to go in with a full premade set of people..?

    Seriously, why would you even think for a second content designed for a Duty Finder where you can go in with premade parties wouldn't let you go in with premade parties? You can argue that SE has a track record of making odd decisions, but just because your FC doesn't have the people..doesn't mean many others don't either, most FC I see when I examine people have 30-100+ active people.
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  10. #170
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namasu View Post
    Do we really need free company in this game then? Why not just remove the whole FC system then if they want to focus on 8man x3 for 24 man duty finder. What's the point of allowing FC to even be larger than 8 man size if we are getting forced into groups of 8 for almost everything endgame.

    Might as well just trash the whole system and force everyone into a linkshell if they don't want to prioritize FC gameplay.
    You're right, I'm sorry.
    I should have known that there are bazillions FC who desperately want to bring all the 24 people level 50 with decent "start endgame gear" they have online, just to do a casual dungeon.
    Also, you've shown me the truth about what guilds and FC are for. That's true, what's the point of a FC if you can't even do end game stuff? Friendship? Same goal? Mutual aid? Naaaaaa. This stuff is garbage, we don't need FC for that! Only end game dungeon, you're right.
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