Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Freakiie]

How exactly are you to build a community with a bunch of people from other servers that you never see again after you're done?

And while there are roundabouts for this (heck you can toy with your language settings a bit to increase your chances even further and so on), people shouldn't need to use them. Heck, the whole thing is pointless anyway exactly because of those workarounds. Still doesn't change that this decision from the dev team is pretty bad, since it basically just reconfirms that they're trying to cater to the solo players. I also wouldn't get my hopes up on the vote to kick. Probably gonna be something like the ability to kick someone if he didn't move for more than 30 minutes or so knowing SE.

Well they will rely on 23 other people to clear the content. I would suspect they would be less interested in griefing so people who might grief would also be under scrutiny from the games community. Names would be passed round the community and naughty people would be excluded.

Yeah that's totally gonna happen! Totally! *sarcasm off*

Seriously it's like those people thinking they can "blacklist" people for fates group in Blue Fog because they handed in the earth core fate or something. Then consider that this is cross server and I wish you very, very good luck at excluding anyone from anything. Oh and wait, the only thing you can't queue up for outside the DF is Coil. What exactly are you even going to exclude people from?

[Sixmp]

Negativity

Well it is what we have to work with. It is something people will have to deal with after all an MMO is all about playing with other people. I think the problem players really wont be as bad as you think. It is one thing to mess about with small groups who cannot kick you but when 23 people want to boot you then it is a different matter.

[Xatsh]

Well it is what we have to work with. It is something people will have to deal with after all an MMO is all about playing with other people. I think the problem players really wont be as bad as you think. It is one thing to mess about with small groups who cannot kick you but when 23 people want to boot you then it is a different matter.

The problem is we want to play with our guilds. That is what endgame in a mmo is all about.

So no it is as bad as it sounds, 8 people does not make a guild.

[Tupsi]

The problem is we want to play with our guilds. That is what endgame in a mmo is all about.

So no it is as bad as it sounds, 8 people does not make a guild.

It was all about that in every other SE MMORPG too. However the usual people will chime in with: "Well that was bad design! You should like this design better! Don't complain! This is Justice! This is Truth! This is Life!"

[Sixmp]

The problem is we want to play with our guilds. That is what endgame in a mmo is all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

[Xatsh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

You are right it is my opinion. And the opinion of EVERY endgame guild in the game.

You need to learn what a mmo is about.

[Sixmp]

You are right it is my opinion. And the opinion of EVERY endgame guild in the game.

You need to learn what a mmo is about.

An MMO is about being part of a world. Taking on adventures with people etc. At no point does it mean taking on adventures with only people in your specific group.
I remember many times in other games i grouped with strangers to take on end game content. FFXI for instance, i used to join up with 2 other linkshells to do Dynamis.
In WoW i have joined up with other guilds to raid Stormwind in PVP. So what was your point again?

[Xatsh]

FFXI for instance, i used to join up with 2 other linkshells to do Dynamis.
So what was your point again?

This is how it should be..

Joining a pug will not do that at all. IN XI yes in earlier days we did that too before we had enough people to run it with just our guild. But you know what it was a group, we did it every week twice a week.

THAT IS WHAT WE WANT. We do not want to be forced to party with complete strangers, we want to option to form groups with friends. Form allys with people we see everyday. Play with people we know. If I get put in a party with players from Excalabur or another server guess what I will probably never get to play with them again in que or at least very rare chance. This will do nothing to better the community.

[anceru]

It seems paradoxal that Free Companies can purchase a house and decorate it as a group activity, but they cannot enter Crystal Tower together. It just strikes me as a funny thing.