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    We don't need any more tanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    We don't need any more tanks
    For the sake of variety, I think we do.

    DPS:Tanks:Heals ratio is 4:2:2 right now. At some point new classes and jobs will be added and those pools will have to get bigger. We obviusly have Rogue/Scout on the way due to Yoshida mentioning it in the past, as well as lingering things like Musketeer. So thinking we'll get more tanks further down the road is perfectly reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    For the sake of variety, I think we do.

    DPS:Tanks:Heals ratio is 4:2:2 right now. At some point new classes and jobs will be added and those pools will have to get bigger. We obviusly have Rogue/Scout on the way due to Yoshida mentioning it in the past, as well as lingering things like Musketeer. So thinking we'll get more tanks further down the road is perfectly reasonable.
    they will probably add more tanks down the road

    but we def don't need some soon-ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    they will probably add more tanks down the road

    but we def don't need some soon-ish.
    Why not? We don't need more DPS in the new future at all since current DPS don't even get into DF or Coil teams.
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    How is an absorbtion tank all that much different from the proposed 20% reduction on IB? It's just a kind of absorb that scales with content which is necessary for all tanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrlordd View Post
    How is an absorbtion tank all that much different from the proposed 20% reduction on IB? It's just a kind of absorb that scales with content which is necessary for all tanks
    It is reactionary and functions AFTER damage and not BEFORE.
    So let us say you have 3000 HP left.
    Mountain buster comes in and rocks you for 3k HP.

    Your absorb occurs AFTER the hit, it doesn't come before it. So you die.
    If it was 20% mitigation, you'd be left with 400hp.
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    Last edited by Leiron; 11-23-2013 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post

    Your absorb occurs AFTER the hit, it doesn't come before it or after the hit. So you die.
    If it was 20% mitigation, you'd be left with 400hp.
    such is why you hit IB before mountain buster to top off and reduce it by 20%. That much i didnt think had to be said. Same would go for absorb, to absorb that mountain buster not take it all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrlordd View Post
    such is why you hit IB before mountain buster to top off and reduce it by 20%. That much i didnt think had to be said. Same would go for absorb, to absorb that mountain buster not take it all
    I do not believe you understood what I was saying.
    Read my post again.

    Edit: Just read my post over again, and make sure to read the post you made before my reply.
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    There's mitigation, self healing, absorbs, crippling, evasion (can't believe I forgot evasion), displaced damage, and even pet tanking.

    In all honesty, I've never seen a game try to implement serious pet tanking, but it doesn't mean it's impossible.

    That said, no, game doesn't need more tanks. People are misunderstanding the problem when they said "more tanks would make queues faster". It wouldn't, really. People that will tank will tank, and people that won't, won't. Other than simplicity, very few are waiting for "the right job" to get them to tank. They dislike the responsibility that comes with tanking.

    I would enjoy a dark knight tank, for instance, but I still don't think the game needs one.
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    Last edited by Steeled; 11-23-2013 at 07:48 PM.
    Shield Lob (Can change red text to Tomahawk and it will work perfectly Warriors)
    /macroicon "Shield Lob"
    /ac "Shield Lob" <t>
    /marking attack1 <t>

    Better "macro switching", give it a read: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivhotbars

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    I do not believe you understood what I was saying.
    Read my post again.

    Edit: Just read my post over again, and make sure to read the post you made before my reply.
    I think i get it now. Thankyou :P

    I would love to see a Samurai tank but I don't think it's going to happen... Samurai dps would be cool stuff too but I like tanking most
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