armory system useless? Mythology Cap

[Gandora]

Thank you for making these posts. It's very gratifying for me as a player that you take the time to communicate the thought process and intent behind design decisions to us. At least for me, when they are explained like this it makes me more inclined to accept things I dislike about the game as necessary or beneficial instead of growing more frustrated with them.

This ^ Arigato Yoshida san, for explaning your whole point of view behing your actions, as a long time customer it is really appreciated.

I'm happy especialy because now it will be motivating to gear up weekly with ToM accessories & Relic+1 will now take 2 weeks. This is incredibly nice for players like me who like to maximize their gear before attempting big things such as BC.

Best regards.

[Ronyx]

so if i gear up 1 character i should just relax? do nothing after i cap my myth for week? also the point is you can bypass this cap by leveling new character and making the armory system useless. stopping people from gearing in 2.1 is just bad excuse because you can bypass that by leveling new character.

by leveling new character you can benefit the following

myth cap x2
BCB (coil)x2
storage/inventory x2

and future proof your character if game will stick with these silly caps per character

And.... in 1 year you will have 3 full AF geared and in 2 years 6... in 3 years 9! THEN what?

[Gandora]

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While this is very difficult to disagree with this argument I think you forgot the main factor in all of this. The player mentality.

Yes, you see it more & more, people expecting you to be at least full DL to do Ifrit HM or WP. ppl who discriminate other jobs/players because of a X or Y reason. Everything you say is totaly valuable, but it is outside of SE's control, Yoshida can try everything, he cannont convince the thousand/million of player to accept each other.

This is why he's doing this change, now everyone can gear a little bit faster/easily up to fullfil each others expectations. he clearly stated it in his post.
Players like you need to be patient too, we don't know the difficulty of the new content coming with this patch, you might be surprised.

[Gandora]

Ideally, content should be designed with the "hardcore" crowd in mind.

From an hardcore player point of view obviously, from a buisness point of view not at all.
When you have a buisness going, you want to sell your products to the majority, I have no math to back up the following statement but i'm pretty sure the hardcore playerbase fall into the minority (for now.)

This being said, its smarter to design content more oriented casual, while adding more difficult content.

[Pacifyer]

Yoshi, how about providing Mytho cap per class? I think 300 was all ok but many people would like to spend their time on several classes. This can still be done by creating multiple characters but what is the reason for armory? I think ther is no sense in forcing people into creating multiple toons...

[KittenJitsu]

Devil's Advocate:

If you can get the best gear with just myth. tomes, then what would motivate me to keep wiping in the new dungeons, after I have cleared it like once? Why should I keep playing those dungeons if there is no reward left over?

I'll tell ya. Time.

The time it would take you to collect myth tomes and buy the gear is much much longer than actually doing the dungeon. It will take me months to acquire a full myth set if I don't attempt Coil soon.

Yoshi, how about providing Mytho cap per class? I think 300 was all ok but many people would like to spend their time on several classes. This can still be done by creating multiple characters but what is the reason for armory? I think ther is no sense in forcing people into creating multiple toons...

How do you have the time? I think they want you to progress with a one job, a main. Heck look at the relic quest. You can't do multiple relic quests at once. Keep it up with your main and then work towards your alts. It's not like they cut you off completely from playing other jobs.

You get 3 new dungeons, in addition to the 2 current dungeons, plus all the other new ways they will implement to gain tomes.

That's no longer an excuse, you don't need to grind the same dungeon anymore to gain tomes.

Not true. People, like me, will still get bored with the new dungeons eventually. Thankfully they are adding other ways to obtain tomes other than doing dungeons. It will help the monotony that is obtaining tomes.

[TirionCrey]

The "you have not capped your alts gear" dont work. You lvl your main for sure, then lvl the "shared professions" to gain the cross class skills. Why work on lvl a second 50 alt unless the guild need it? I already lvl'd to 50 and now I want to play endgame. Atm there is NO LVL 50 cross class.

Of course nobody is forced to level any classes/jobs to lvl 50 if they don't want to, but please accept the fact that this game is built around leveling several classes/jobs and in result gearing them up. If you don't care about this cause your Free Company (the fact that you call it guild says a lot too) is fine with you only having one viable level 50 class/job, then good for you. Only proves that you and your FC are far from being anywhere near hardcore, still you make demands on behalf of the "hardcore" playerbase. You are not even not hardcore, you are even a minority among the casual players, cause even the majority of casual players care about lvling several classes/jobs to 50, cause that's what this game is built around.

If anyone in your FC decides to quit the game you are gonna be one of those players that can't jump in for any other role than what you are already and that's what makes the difference between hardcore and regular FCs in this game.
Hardcore FC demand versatility among all their members, being able to fill other roles if needed. My FC calls itself hardcore, though even I would say they are not as hardcore as they want to make it look like, but I can assure you, we are gonna run CT every single week til 2.2, cause as most people everyone in the FC focuses on using their Myth on their main class/job, but CT will help everyone to gear up their other classes/jobs as well, to make them more efficient in the case they have to jump in on that role. Some people in my FC even lvld alts to 50 and gear them up, cause of the Coil lockout, so they can jump in to other groups and help them if they are short one person.

[Yingus]

I like the idea of the increase of the cap, and adding the new raid. It's great! Only problem for me is, that I won't be able to do it, since the lag is horrible, that I couldn't even do Titan properly.

[Reslin]

Ideally, content should be designed with the "hardcore" crowd in mind.

According to blizzard (who have the most players in the mmo business both casual and hardcore.) The hardcore make up 8% of the game. Why on earth would you "Ideally" design content with the hardcore in mind? I guess if your goal is committing financial suicide then it would be a very sound practice.

If you don't care about this cause your Free Company (the fact that you call it guild says a lot too)

Do you know the difference between a clan, FC, guild, etc in the various games out there? None except in name only.

[KittenJitsu]

If you don't care about this cause your Free Company (the fact that you call it guild says a lot too)

I stopped reading after this statement. Why does it matter? I still call my FC a guild.

Pointless to badger someone over it.