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    let me put this thread in another perspective:

    Lets say a new MMO came out with mobs that dont move and just turn in circles like old SNES rpgs (FF mystic quest).
    Would you say "its a fantasy game, so that normal" or would you say "wow that game is outdated"

    Now we know other games have come out with realistic birds.
    So why would you want SE to have outdated floating birds
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    Why do you always seek out the most minor problems and magnify them to a point of distressing issue Vesperia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Why do you always seek out the most minor problems and magnify them to a point of distressing issue Vesperia?
    i dont see how being outdated is a minor issue.
    The game has failed
    compared to rift its a joke
    and it hasnt even caught up to rift in over half a year

    i realize hes a troll but he pointed out a serious issue. this game has some things that are really oldschool. Its like they took the fail parts of ffxi and ignored the cool progressive parts. so you have an old outdated game, that is pretty but has repetitive boring areas, that honestly can't even compare to the gameplay/story/content of the vanilla ffxi.
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    How am I a troll? Was it something I said?

    I, quite frankly, am of the opinion that floating birds are the real trolls around here. But if you beg to differ, I guess that's just the way you see the world. Maybe in some weird, warped way, floating birds make a lot of sense to you, Gramul.
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    I don't think you're a troll Vesperia. I just think your focusing on the micro rather than the macro, and that doesn't work well for design.

    You gotta make the outline before you go into the details. Especially with such minor things like the gliding animation for one type of enemy.
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    Hell even if you brought the issue up as "General mob animations" with some issues that the other monsters tend to have with there quirks and bring the floating birds as a strong example.

    But focusing on one single type of monster and blindly fighting against people who don't agree it's a big issue.

    Although even in the case of poor animation in general SE has some solid mobs with very good animations. Efts are animated perfectly and even react to your presense before agroing noting they go into "Active search mode" for sound agro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I don't think you're a troll Vesperia. I just think your focusing on the micro rather than the macro, and that doesn't work well for design.

    You gotta make the outline before you go into the details. Especially with such minor things like the gliding animation for one type of enemy.
    Considering that my first ever thread was on the direction of FFXIV (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ction-of-FFXIV), it is not true at all that I focus only on minor issues.

    Besides, there are broader implications of the floating bird scenario rather than just the fact that it's an eyesore. The floating bird is a microcosm for SE's greater failings.

    The floating bird represents the path of least resistance. And SE has taken that path way too often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    it is not true at all that I focus only on minor issues.
    I'm saying it's becoming a strong habit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I'm saying it's becoming a strong habit.
    At least I don't float.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    How am I a troll? Was it something I said?

    I, quite frankly, am of the opinion that floating birds are the real trolls around here. But if you beg to differ, I guess that's just the way you see the world. Maybe in some weird, warped way, floating birds make a lot of sense to you, Gramul.
    Don't worry if people can't find a decent enough argument for a post you make round here they basically brand you a troll and try to derail your thread, its just easier to ignore those people.
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