Warrior "buff" in 2.1: not what we are expecting?

[Emmesty]

I just laugh when I see people who whining and qqing because WAR getting on par with PLD in the next coming patch lol.

It is essentially on par, unless there's a way to "twist" the mechanic to provide a longer mitigation uptime. The change to storm's eye will be an added mitigation tool for whatever percentage the damage reduction is, but until percentage and duration are release we won't be able to factor that. Also there will be a ramp up time for warrior where I think single target threat generation and debuff mitigation will push slightly above paladin, but the change to holmgang, although a shorter recast time still requires a healer to focus on the warrior, since a warrior at 1 hp when it ends is a dead warrior, where as now my pld can pop it and my healer can go help someone else for a few seconds. I'm glad to see the changes, but they are not so extreme that I will be focusing my attention away from my paladin.

[Taitoru]

^
yeah that's what i thought

[Rochetm]

I agree with everything other than inner beast

How dare they add a no cooldown short duration damage reduction to War that is based on skill of the player... HOW COULD THEY!!!

[Basjohn]

Steel Cyclone is still laughably trite for a lvl 50 skill that requires stack consumption.

Compared to the PLD 50 AOE which is glorious, leaves a dot and requires no stacks of anything.

This will probably keep me playing PLD at the moment, but is largely the reason I maxed them both for ease of alteration (because I do enjoy the warrior otherwise)

[Rochetm]

Steel Cyclone is still laughably trite for a lvl 50 skill that requires stack consumption.

Compared to the PLD 50 AOE which is glorious, leaves a dot and requires no stacks of anything.

This will probably keep me playing PLD at the moment, but is largely the reason I maxed them both for ease of alteration (because I do enjoy the warrior otherwise)

Scorn and Spirts being off GCD are the only things that keep pld even kind of interesting for me.

[MarcusY1990]

I agree with everything other than inner beast

Yeah..now war seem to be more about damage migration than self-heal.

[Goonter]

Theres gonna be alot of butthurt plds for not being OP anymore

[Bluewood]

The concept of the WAR passed away.
This is already a knight...........

[Wolfbite]

Well it will probably be if the target will get the effect of holmgang which its not possible on most bosses

When using the skill. Reads to me, Doesn't matter if a boss is effected or not, kind of like the current incarnation. Boss may not get the effect, but you still become stuck in place, awesome!

As a Veteran Warrior, I am disappointed that this will probably make WAR way too spotlight...I liked that WAR was unpopular, with only the dedicated and few playing this class well. It was satisfying, rolling up and Tanking everything when the general community would be blinded by PLD.
The way I read this, WAR will be the new "it" tank.
PLD survivability has been given a run for it's money. We now have survivability and the healing bonuses. It seems we will be able to better heal ourselves, as the whole point was.
I am glad a lot of the abilities have had uses tweaked and pumped up, it will be fun to utilize the changes and improve on the old methods.

[Judge_Xero]

Steel Cyclone is still laughably trite for a lvl 50 skill that requires stack consumption.

Compared to the PLD 50 AOE which is glorious, leaves a dot and requires no stacks of anything.

This will probably keep me playing PLD at the moment, but is largely the reason I maxed them both for ease of alteration (because I do enjoy the warrior otherwise)

Agreed. Steel Cyclone should either have a HP recovery attached to it or throw out a DOT.
It is pretty weak compared to Overpower for Enmity generation.
The only thing I find it useful for is when you have Berserk + Internal Release and Bloodbath stacked on a huge pull. If you are already Infuriated you can do 2 Steel Cyclones hitting up to 600 per mob.

Pretty excited for the changes that are coming though. It looks like Warrior will still take some skill to play, but also a good tank.