For all those WHM parser out there

[senjyo]

Please stop making comparison with your heal vs SCH's heal. Because parser doesn't record damage mitigation such as Adlo. shield, Scared Soil (10% reduced), Eye for eye (10% reduced), Succor Shield.

Do I even need to mention about overhealing? Just because you heal massive amount doesn't mean they are all effective heal. In fact when healer try to top the tank off, more than half the heal is overhealing. But on the other hand damage mitigation is never consider "overhealed" (unless you running 2 or more SCH).

Don't get me wrong I love WHM, they are good healer, but i just hate those WHM out there that using wrong number trying to prove their epeen size is bigger.

[Bigpurpleharness]

It doesn't factor in regen or medica II either, or stoneskin. You're also forgetting any good WHM will be using virus and E4E also.

That being said, the only time a parser will tell you something about healers currently is if one is under half the other's. An Open API will greatly help this out.

[senjyo]

It doesn't factor in regen or medica II either, or stoneskin. You're also forgetting any good WHM will be using virus and E4E also.

For HoT, whispering dawn from SCH also not being recorded as well. And for Stoneskin, most fight u only use it once, and for certain fight u might cast it additional 1-2 times. But it can't compare to adlo. which is one of the most spammable skill. The mitigation that was left out by parser is extremely huge. SCH/SMN has super virus vs WHM virus, and I don't want to talk about small thing such as virus vs super virus. I am talking about thing like adlo. shield, which could easily make up 30%+ of SCH healing.

Bottom line is, in my experience with parser if SCH's heal amount is around 70-75% of WHM assuming both have same level of gear then SCH is definitly on par or even outperformed the WHM by little bit.

[Bridgeburner]

My favorite healing parser is Caduceus. I usually know in the first 60 seconds if the other healer is pulling his weight, regardless of class.

[Tremara]

Bottom line is, in my experience with parser if SCH's heal amount is around 70-75% of WHM assuming both have same level of gear then SCH is definitly on par or even outperformed the WHM by little bit.

Sorry but that is bullshit ... if the SCH does a good job the WHM has less too heal (SCH also). In my Opinion parsers for heal are garbage (for this game) because the result (party survives an encounter) is important not what which healer was healing ...
There is no "outperforming", both classes work really good together and complemente one another.

[senjyo]

In my Opinion parsers for heal are garbage (for this game) because the result (party survives an encounter) is important not what which healer was healing ...
There is no "outperforming", both classes work really good together and complemente one another.

I agree that parsers is pretty crappy here comparing to other games (ex. Rift). The post is mainly direct to those players that blindly looking at parsers without understanding how the parsers works.

IMO there is nothing wrong using a parsers, at least that's the only way we had right now to show the performance of a player (partially). What got me upset is ppl that just look at the number without putting a single thought into it. Just because the number is there doesn't mean the number is right. Using incorrect information as the only source to evaluate the performance of another player is not just dumb, it is beyond dumb.

[Wolf_Gang]

That being said, the only time a parser will tell you something about healers currently is if one is under half the other's.

No it wouldn't because it doesn't account for over-healing.
FFXIV heals, HoTs and Aldoq effects still stack even if target is 100%.

[Bigpurpleharness]

Bottom line is, in my experience with parser if SCH's heal amount is around 70-75% of WHM assuming both have same level of gear then SCH is definitly on par or even outperformed the WHM by little bit.

WHM isn't going to outST heal a SCH. If the SCH is being beaten by 30%+ then the fight better be very AoE heavy, or the SCH is slacking. WHM has AoE burst healing on SCH, that's about it unless you want to include AoE DPS, which I fully expect to be nerfed.

[Mewmewmew]

I can share my experience. During raid voice chats and FC chats, my old guild raid leader and other members kept talking about how the white mage parse and etc, esp. during Titan HM., how awesome white mages are. They then took 2 white mages to Coil. Well, us scholars just left the guild. .

[PiedPiper]

IDK what you're on about. Scholars can put up equal > numbers than whms on healing parsers in endgame content if you add in the fairy (and the fairy will be very little over healing).

I agree if there is a huge gap that's an indication one healer is slacking. "BUT ZOMG OVER HEALS" Yo, unless you are straight up chain casting on full hp targets the entire time, your over heals aren't going to be that big of a part of your healing (not to mention, the other healer will have the same problem, presumably).