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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    SE should just set up a few bogus gil-seller websites that they can change the name of periodically and advertise via /sh here and there (not spam like we see today but if they do it mildly its fine) then when someone goes to buy gil BAM account banned!
    Hi NotSonyBogusGilSeller, I'd like to purchase $1 dollar worth of gil. My character name? Yes, it's Lynara Zerrshia. Oh no you banned me! You've outsmarted me again Yoshi with your superior wits! When will I learn
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    Quote Originally Posted by CianaIezuborn View Post
    Hi NotSonyBogusGilSeller, I'd like to purchase $1 dollar worth of gil. My character name? Yes, it's Lynara Zerrshia. Oh no you banned me! You've outsmarted me again Yoshi with your superior wits! When will I learn
    yeah that could be an issue lol

    since I have never purchased gil or gold in any game Im not exactly sure how it works, but I guess all they need is your char name. Ok I rescind my idea lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    In the states I believe you call it "entrapment" and thus it would be maybe not illegal but unethical for sure.
    While this is completely off topic, I will entertain this for fun.

    Actually, doing that would be perfectly ok, and not entrapment. There is a thin line, however. This would have to operate in the form of a 'sting operation' by SE. In this, it would be perfectly ok for them to create a dummy website and set people up in various zones to shout. In this scenario, the people who go to them to buy gil are people who would have done so, as there is no direct provocation on the part of SE in this scenario.

    This is no different than how cops set up dummy prostitution ads on sites like backpage and craigslist; or how law enforcement sets up in teen/child chatrooms to catch pedos. They don't go in and provoke the act. They simply place the bait, and people who are out to commit the act will take the bait.

    Entrapment involves initially enticing people directly and individually, and provoking illicit activity. So there is a difference in what AnimaAnimus was talking about and entrapment.

    *For an added piece of information. If you do take the risk to participate in illegal activity with someone. You should know, if you ask the person if they are affiliated with law enforcement, and they say no...that is NOT entrapment. The same would go for SE if they were running sting operations. Undercover operations are undercover for a reason; so they can catch people who intend to take part in illicit activity. People who do not intend to commit an illicit act will not be caught in these kinds of situations.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    yeah that could be an issue lol

    since I have never purchased gil or gold in any game Im not exactly sure how it works, but I guess all they need is your char name. Ok I rescind my idea lol
    Your idea is actually fine, there is nothing wrong or illegal about SE doing sting operations. I would honestly be more surprised if they were not doing it already. You really never know, no matter what they would tell us here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi View Post
    Your idea is actually fine, there is nothing wrong or illegal about SE doing sting operations. I would honestly be more surprised if they were not doing it already. You really never know, no matter what they would tell us here.
    If they took money from people in the process they would at the very least be opening themselves up to easy litigation and possibly prosecution for fraud.

    If they didn't take money I'm not sure how they would approach it, give out free gil then ban you for accepting the trade? That still seems open to malicious abuse.

    There would have to be some type of in game confirmation of the transaction, or else it could be abused as I mentioned above.

    SE isn't a law enforcement agency, they don't operate on the same legal ground as such.
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