Acceptable to spirit bind in Dungeons?

[SleepyMonkey]

I feel the same way as you OP. Whenever I go to a dungeon, I do inspect people pretty much the whole time, and sadly many times people wears lame jewerly...and I'm not just talking about using regular jewerly which benefits your class but jewerly that doesn't do anything at all for your class...like wearing crafting/gathering jewerly or two +spiritbound rings along with jewerly with useless stats for their class (like a healer using str stuff).

So yeah, maybe I'm too picky but whenever I see that kind of people first I ask nicely to use the real stuff and if they don't I simply leave the group. It may not be a big deal, but if everyone in the group uses the same thing you would turn the sweet 15 min or less WP runs into 20ish...and honestly spiritbound is much faster grinding mobs.

The only times where I would use spiritbound gear would be if I go with friends or my FC and we all do the same thing, but other than that I think it's quite greedy to "sneak" it. It sort of reminds me of GW2 when people used MF gear to do dungeons even if that meant their character was 50%+ less effective.

[NyneAlexander]

Should we then all just downgrade to the gear level of the lowest, non-SB dps in the group? Wouldn't that be the most fair?

I'm sorry, but if I'm in a dungeon, and the left half of my gear is all allagan/af2 with a relic+1 and the right half of my gear is level 49 SB accessories you aren't going to notice. You are going to end up getting bent out of shape over the principle and not over actual results.

[Zeille]

An entire set of i55 spirit bonding gear (with relevant stats to your class) in WP/AK is still better than a fresh 50 in AF.

If you DF those dungeons, then you are rolling the dice and taking what you can get.

[Noahlimits]

Should we then all just downgrade to the gear level of the lowest, non-SB dps in the group? Wouldn't that be the most fair?

I'm sorry, but if I'm in a dungeon, and the left half of my gear is all allagan/af2 with a relic+1 and the right half of my gear is level 49 SB accessories you aren't going to notice. You are going to end up getting bent out of shape over the principle and not over actual results.

I have no problem with a few pieces. I just took exception to him changing into FULL whites (including weapon).

[ShinkuTachi]

Personally, I SB crafting and gathering accessories and belts all the time in DF runs. However, I keep my Relic +1 weapon and my Relic/DL armor on. If people are doing that, I don't have a problem.

The problem I do have is when people are rolling with sub 45 gear. The least they could do is use a GC weapon and some decent gear off the AH.

[MaiyaBeaumont]

I had a GM tell my friend when he was reporting someone refusing to heal a party, being one of those "DD Whitemages", that there was nothing they could do. It is up to the player on how they want to play. Therefore, if a healer wants to cast Stone2 instead of doing their jobs as healer, that's up to them.
Hate to say it, but if you report someone for spirit bonding in a dungeon, I HIGHLY doubt the GM's are going to do anything if healers dont have to heal.

[Ri_ri]

It's ok for FC/LS party but if I see someone doing it in DF, I won't try too hard to heal that guy. If he/she doesn't play 100% why should I? they're making money, I'm not getting anything but harder work.

Because doing a level 55 instance in level 90 gear is hard work.

[CianaIezuborn]

My first thought is that this practice is rude, and I personally would not consider doing it in a Duty Finder. I'd consider it to be under the same guidelines as Speed Runs, if you want to do it form a group that's down with it.

In practice however, if you're SBing gear that's functionally better than AF(Militia and 49 accessories) I wouldn't have a problem with it. I also wouldn't have a problem and probably wouldn't even notice if you were rolling with crafting accessories in full DL/Myth gear with a relic.

It's a fine line, so I'd just suggest that if you wanted to roll in SB gear you ask the group at the start if they mind. I doubt most folks would have an issue, and if they do you can always leave and queue again.

[Nihility]

It's ok to do some accessories since honestly they don't matter too much to begin with and if your rocking 90 stuff in your weapon and armor slots your still light years beyond the instance.

But if your going to do it with armor and weapons at least have enough respect for other people in general to use the 55 militia/operative gears and 55 weapons
Don't know why people are so incredibly selfish to do that to groups that may have waited an hour or more, i see people entering duty finder in full crafting gear all the time so have to carry people through that are basically naked except a weapon... fun...

seriously though people doing that in instances are probably not very smart to begin with, you can spiritbond much more efficiently just grinding world mobs and can level your chocobo and group up with other spiritbonders to make it even faster.

[TeganLaron]

There are a lot of variables that effect my opinion on this issue.

Duty Finder or Pre-made?
If you've used Duty Finder and you stumble onto someone spirtbonding, then you can't really complain. Most of the people here are people complaining about how it might not necessarily be causing people to fail runs, but instead slowing them down. Well if you're looking for a speed run, you shouldn't be using Duty Finder. However if this is a pre-made party with the agreement of a speed run and somebody decides to slow everyone down using rubbish gear for their own personal gain, without asking permission, then that's not on.

Battle Gear or Crafting?
If someone is using battling gear (which is also suited to their class) then I don't really see the need for complaint. CM, WP, AK and Prae are all capable of being completed in under level 50 gear, despite what the elitists would have you believe. So, again under the assumption this is not a universally agreed speed run, I don't see a problem. However if someone is wearing their fishing hat and carpenter boots, no, that's not really fair on everyone else.

Class Differentiation
As a healer, my job is to keep people alive. So if I'm capable of doing that in rubbish gear, then it doesn't really affect the completion, nor the speed, of the run. However DPS have the job of killing the enemies, so if they cannot do it quick enough (or at all) it could cause problems.

Finally, a little note that people need to remember, Duty Finder is random! If you're a relic+1 in Allagan gear, then don't complain if you're put with a spiritbonder or someone just less geared than yourself in Duty Finder. If you're that well geared, you really wouldn't have a problem getting a pre-made party.