Why is there still so much to do at end game?

[Mega_Man_U]

Once everyone accepts this game has issues and agree that the DEVS dont care then ill be happy.

Oh we do, they're just not as bad as doomsayers make them look. Sure, you can go from 1-50 in two days grinding FATEs for 12 hours a day, that's no fun (and probably not the way the game was meant to be played). I mean, power level in the dullest possible way and then complain that grinding FATEs is boring like someone's MAKING you do it? I've seen a lot of that over here.

And the devs have posted several times about certain issues. You can't expect them to provide the same answers over and over.

And i dont mean to be insulting just FYI. Im actually just presenting the facts. and not being a total carebear about it. Cause someone has to stand up and announce the serious issues FFXIV has.

Nah, you're presenting your opinion as fact. For example:

"But if most hardcores like myself can max a 50 and get relic and full DL in under 3 to 4 days. Then well this game is just a fail."

Hardcores are not the majority. So no, the game may be a fail to the people who play the way you do, but your opinion (which you're entitled to) does not represent most of the playerbase.

[Kosmos992k]

Nah, you're presenting your opinion as fact. For example:

But if most hardcores like myself can max a 50 and get relic and full DL in under 3 to 4 days. Then well this game is just a fail.

Hardcores are not the majority. So no, the game may be a fail to the people who play the way you do, but your opinion (which you're entitled to) does not represent most of the playerbase.

You know, I think it's time we re-think the definition of 'hardcore' and 'casual'. Seems to me that the players that blast their way to DL+Relic in 3/4 days and whine about nothing to do are not very 'hardcore' since once their feeding frenzy is over their playing hours drop like a stone and their whining hours rise like a Tsunami. Just like locusts they have stripped the food supply bare and are now starving because of their own greed.

On the other hand players who take their time, inhabit the game world, role play, chat, socialize and generally speaking play in the alternate universe Eorzea supplies seem to me to be a lot more 'hardcore', since they will continue to support this game for months and years to come. While the 'casual' locusts have moved to another source of food to exhaust in days.

I saw someone earlier in the thread deride the idea that people might actually role play - IN A ROLE PLAYING GAME!? The sentiment was that 'hardcores' wouldn't do that, only 'casuals' would.

Well it seems to me that 'hardcor'e RPG players are the ones that inhabit the world and make a long term commitment to playing their character in this world, where as the 'casuals' are the once who feed on the content like locusts, power leveling their way to DL+relic in a week or less and then switch to playing their myth cap once a week in a few hours. I mean in the long term, the 'hardcore' players are the ones here every day, the ones still playing the same character in 6 months, the ones helping the new players, the ones who actually enjoy the game and commit to it. The 'casuals' are the ones who's interest is only superficial and drifts once their feeding frenzy is at an end.