Dengeki Playstation 25/04/2011, new game information inside ?

[Gramul]

WTF. Jobs aren't something to ASPIRE to, they are just a method of play. It's a way for you to PLAY a ROLE in a PARTY while you are actually DOING some CONTENT.

It's not another stupid, unfulfilling grind they are putting in place just so you can feel a FALSE SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENT because you have MORE PATIENCE than someone else.

Personally, like for me personally, there is nothing that would make me any angrier with this idea than if they made it another grind.

But I guess there's a reason FFXIV still has fans - some people just have OCD and need to grind. It's like in their DNA or something. LOL.

I'm saying we NEED something to aspire to. SOMETHING to keep us BUSY with a game. A FALSE SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENT is what VIDEOGAMES are all ABOUT because in the end you've technically accomplished NOTHING. Giving us a GOAL allows us to WORK for SOMETHING so we can be ENTERTAINED when we ACHIEVE it.

I'm not saying we grind forever, but we need long adventures. Something to show us that we're imperfect at the stage we're at, but we can get stronger under certain conditions we have to work through.

[SuzakuCMX]

I'm saying we NEED something to aspire to. SOMETHING to keep us BUSY with a game. A FALSE SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENT is what VIDEOGAMES are all ABOUT because in the end you've technically accomplished NOTHING. Giving us a GOAL allows us to WORK for SOMETHING so we can be ENTERTAINED when we ACHIEVE it.

I thought that's what dungeons and companies were for.

[Gramul]

I thought that's what dungeons and companies were for.

How long do you expect those to last us?

[SuzakuCMX]

How long do you expect those to last us?

Why, how long did you expect a second grind to feel like actual content?

[Gramul]

Why, how long did you expect a second grind to feel like actual content?

Same as it takes a regular grind. Again, why have a preliminary grind at all if we're so against it?

[SuzakuCMX]

Same as it takes a regular grind. Again, why have a preliminary grind at all if we're so against it?

One grind is necessary to "earn" something.

The tricky part is making it not feel like a grind.

[Gramul]

One grind is necessary to "earn" something.

And I suppose sense these new "Jobs" aren't really anything more than some extra abilities they're not worth the secondary grind.

Then again, if they can make the first not feel like a grind, why would the theoretical secondary, or even a different class be different?
You've given me much to think about.