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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    This is normal. Not everyone that buys an mmo subs. You realize wow has well over 60,000,000 copies sold? Remember when they had 50-60 million play- Oh wait. They didn't? Also the 1.2 million accounts made? 500,000 came from last month alone. The same month this number was taken from. Guess what else? No one counts as a subscriber until they pay. That's right, 500,000 people bought the game last month and we currently have 600,000 subscribers. We don't know of those 500,000 new people how many will sub.
    So your one of those people that love a terrible combat system and slow game play in addition to putting hours into your toon and looking the same as everyone else. Have fun with your dumbed down ez mode mmo with 0 reason to keep playing at lvl 50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    So your one of those people that love a terrible combat system and slow game play in addition to putting hours into your toon and looking the same as everyone else. Have fun with your dumbed down ez mode mmo with 0 reason to keep playing at lvl 50
    The combat isn't that slow. I've played slower (FF11 and others.) Slow doesn't make something terrible. Chess can have some pretty slow gameplay. Chess also happens to be one of my favorite games. Looking the same as everyone else? Fixed in 2.2 with the vanity system. Also not very different from other mmorpgs. End game gear looks like end game gear. In WoW if you're capable of getting tier 6 you wore tier 6. Would it be great to look different and have vanity? Of course which is why it's coming. Is it necessary for a new game? Not at all. This game has more content than any mmo's release since 2004 by the way. Don't pull the whole "But it's not competing with those games.." no mmo will release with as much content as mmo's with years of expansions. You have any idea how much money blizzard has poured into WoW? You think square enix or any company really has the budget or time to release a game with that amount of content? EZ mode? Took longer for people to beat Twintania than the first raids in wow's latest expansion. Titan is harder than 90% of the bosses in existing mmo's as well.

    Not to mention golden saucer is around the corner. A card game has been alluded to. Housing, breeding, racing, mini games, treasure hunting, and more. Thing is I don't mind waiting for an mmo to make improvements. If they start going back on their word or making changes I don't like? I'll be gone. Just as I've left many many mmorpgs in the past but I'm giving them time. I used to be an mmo hopper but I like the sound of the stuff on the horizon. I owe no company loyalty and I'm not loyal to the FF franchise but yes to answer you I enjoy the game.
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    Last edited by Reslin; 11-18-2013 at 05:07 AM.

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    Have fun wasting $15 a month paying for a broken MMO while they try and fix it then.
    All these soon to come changes should have been there on release
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    Have fun wasting $15 a month paying for a broken MMO while they try and fix it then.
    All these soon to come changes should have been there on release
    Your opinion except for the fact things takes time. Good luck trying to find another mmo with as much content on launch as this one. Hint, there won't be any for awhile. SE doesn't have to answer to investors and there hasn't been as much starting content on an mmo since 2004 as I mentioned before. If you're going to bounce from mmo to mmo looking for an mmo with as much content as say current WoW on release you won't find any. Wild Star won't have it. ESO won't have it. Etc. Oh, and this has been the first mmo in years that after the two month drop off point we've gone up in subscribers rather than down. Rag on the game as much as you want but it's going to be here for quite some time as long as the devs don't do anything colossally stupid.

    Game isn't broken by the way. It's incomplete. So is every mmo at launch. Also every mmo misses things that they wanted in at launch. WoW was missing dungeons too at launch that they wanted in. They also intended to have a pvp system in place (even if it wasn't battlegrounds) with benefits and rewards.

    Quote Originally Posted by SynMaris View Post
    Your white knighting aside, you keep saying the numbers have gone up, care to source that? Also, Wild Star I guarantee will have more content than this when its released, in fact its one of the things their dev team keeps stressing over and over again. Quote me on it when its released!
    A lot of their content (I've been following it and was considering getting it in hopes it would be the next mmo that could hook me while I was 95% certain FF14 would crash and burn.) that they mentioned isn't end game content. They state that they want a lot of end game content. So has every mmo developer. When asked to talk about their end game content they focused discussion on 40v40 RVR pvp. They didn't talk much about the pve side of things. They also talked about how different end game pieces will be randomized in terms of looks putting variety at what people have but that's not really a talk about "how many" end game dungeons there are or "How long" they'll last. They also stated they didn't want to cater to the 1% (world firsts types) and want to cater to the casuals. If they cater to the casuals what makes you think their end game content will last longer than here?

    You know who also talked a big game? SWTOR. If Wild Star makes me eat my words I'll probably quit FF14 and play it. I play what I find is the most fun game out. So far? You can resort to all the Ad Hominems you want but currently FF14 has offered a bigger end game experience than any mmo launch in recent years.

    By the way. I have listed complaints about this game but I have more likes than I do complaints. I have also never resorted to the usual "Just unsub" or anything of the sort. One of my biggest complaints is the asinine post limit crap on the forums which is why I'm editing this post right now. You know a difference between us? I don't insult someone for having a different view I also don't sit on forums of a game I don't like. I just leave silently. As mentioned, if Wild Star is better? I'll leave. I also won't be posting here telling everyone "how much better" it is but no. I expect I'd see you on the wild star forums bashing that game when it launches as well. Including the next game, and the next, and the next..
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    Last edited by Reslin; 11-18-2013 at 05:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    White Knight Stuff we keep hearing over and over again from this guy.
    Your white knighting aside, you keep saying the numbers have gone up, care to source that? Also, Wild Star I guarantee will have more content than this when its released, in fact its one of the things their dev team keeps stressing over and over again. Quote me on it when its released!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    currently FF14 has offered a bigger end game experience than any mmo launch in recent years.
    Damm that's pretty sad if it's true.

    Castrum = obsolete
    Prae = obsolete
    Primals = obsolete
    AK = maybe once in awhile
    WP = Speed run grindfest snorefest.
    BC = Statics, lockouts.

    Played Neverwinter f2p and the end game was more satisfying for longer than FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    Have fun wasting $15 a month paying for a broken MMO while they try and fix it then.
    All these soon to come changes should have been there on release
    Again, you had your free month (or 14 days), to decide whether or not you wanted to stay or leave. Yet, 3 months into Launch you are still playing the game.

    Why are you playing/paying a game you call trash anyways?

    Edit: and it's 12 bucks a month ( for me it's 47 bucks for 6 months) best deal for me .
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    Last edited by Starlord; 11-18-2013 at 05:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    This game has more content than any mmo's release since 2004 by the way.
    Sorry, but that is blatantly false. I know Tera, had much more content and just basic features overall at launch. I am quite sure it's not the only one since 2004, either.
    In fact, it's quite possibly the opposite. For example, this is one of the few, if not the only triple A subscription game that launched without any form of PvP whatsoever in recent years. It's almost hard to take you seriously when you claim such silly things. Just, saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    dumbed down ez mode mmo
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    Coil is ridiculously hard to organise.
    lol, okay.
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