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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Beyond these reasons, why would someone want to have alts in a game designed to be a 1-character based game?
    I'm confused. Why would you list off a bunch of legitimate reasons for people to want alts and then... ask why people would want alts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Because despite that, you have to understand that the game is simply not designed for them. Plain and simple. If you're looking for a game that is, at least in a way that this specific alt user might like, you might need to look elsewhere.
    You should't try to speak on what this game is "designed for" without actually taking part in the game's design process.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    How is it not designed to be that way? Just because you can do everything on one character, doesn't mean that's the correct/best/only way. If anything it's more designed for alts than 1 character. Why?

    *awesome list here*
    Excellent post. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I'm confused. Why would you list off a bunch of legitimate reasons for people to want alts and then... ask why people would want alts?
    Because despite that, you have to understand that the game is simply not designed for them. Plain and simple. If you're looking for a game that is, at least in a way that this specific alt user might like, you might need to look elsewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    You should't try to speak on what this game is "designed for" without actually taking part in the game's design process.
    This response is pretty poor when you think about the statement that was already given by a rep. Not to mention the fact that things are difficult for you to alt as is. If a system function is difficult to do, or non-existent, it PROBABLY wasn't designed to be used that way.

    As I said before, you have the option to alt for those reasons that I stated (if not others), but it's pretty clear that the difficulty to do certain BASIC things, makes it evident that you are (currently) not playing the game as is intended. Of course, I'm not saying that you are wrong to be doing it, just that you're fighting an up-hill battle in doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Because despite that, you have to understand that the game is simply not designed for them. Plain and simple. If you're looking for a game that is, at least in a way that this specific alt user might like, you might need to look elsewhere.
    How is it not designed to be that way? Just because you can do everything on one character, doesn't mean that's the correct/best/only way. If anything it's more designed for alts than 1 character. Why?

    • For starters you can level multiple characters to 50 significantly faster than trying to get those 50s on one.
    • Each character will be building it's rested exp while you play on others.
    • Each character will have it's own pool of levequest allowances.
    • Each character will have access to all of the games quests again, instead of burning through them once and never again.
    • Each character can be unique and let you see the game from a different point of view via races, genders etc.
    • Each character can see different starter story lines that you'd otherwise miss out on.
    • Each character has it's own inventory and retainers. As everything is spread among multiple characters, you have more than enough room for your items instead of needing to hoard them all on one.
    • Each character can have it's own stat point allotment without needing to spend seals to get the full benefit out of jobs (Such as the SMN/SCH situation)

    I can see crafters benefiting from a single character though, since it relies so heavily on cross class abilities. But that's something you can do on just one of many alts anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
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    I never said alting has no benefits to it. I've even stated some of them in a response at the top of this page. A lot of what you said isn't exactly a reason that is exclusive to the act of alt leveling though... which is actually not a reason that supports the game being intended to be played with alts. I'll give you the quests point, despite that just being a default.

    One could even argue that the game is more designed for multiple accounts because you can actually mail stuff between them, can play them simultaneously (multibox), and don't even have to wait for a queue if you have enough alt accounts... not to mention every single point you've already stated (you get why I pointed out that it's not exclusive?). Ask yourself though, does that mean we're all intended to be playing the game with multiple accounts? I mean, if we're going with those benefits, it's pretty obvious that multiple accounts makes things a lot easier than just simple alt characters.

    Whereas, single character leveling benefits from all of that (at least once, if not indefinitely) and then some. Immediately, one benefit exclusive to single characters is the exp bonus to lower level jobs. Another being that you don't have to farm through stuff multiple times to get things... tomes? gear? seals? limitations by quest/dungeon progress?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    How is it not designed to be that way? Just because you can do everything on one character, doesn't mean that's the correct/best/only way.
    >.> Which is why they made everything on one character..huh? The "best" way would logically be everything on one character, but with alts what you didn't mention:

    Unless you really want to spend time doing said "all access to every quest and storyline" numerous times to get caught up, you're actually sinking more time doing alts than you are just doing 1 size fits all character - which directly contradicts people in this community continually stating that time sinks = bad game design.
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