Dengeki Playstation 25/04/2011, new game information inside ?

[Renshi]

Who cares about other MMOs. It happened.
They could avoid it? Yes, but they didn't, and now they're fixing the game letting us know every little detail.

If we have to wait like you guys had to with FFXI, then wait the f*cking time. I'm kind of pissed off by reading things over and over again.

Which is a good thing tho. You guys are better than teachers =D

[Elexia]

But one thing TERA got right that XIV didnt is content, now they did the same mistake of not having endgame in right at the start, guess how long it took them to address that? 3 months. Dungeons, battle adjustments (a lot more than XIV's) and many other changes.

As always, you leave out the fact XIV needs foundational changes whereas Tera did not. The deepest changes they've done non-content wise wasn't a complete overhaul of it's base systems.

[Punxsutawney]

Viion, why oh why are you on the ff14 forums for 18 hours a day if TERA is so amazing? You're also bragging how awesome TERA is and how poor FF14 is, yet you are always here on the forums. So either A) you have never played TERA and are talking out of your ass or B) TERA SUCKS. Which is it?
ps. TERA isn't even released in America yet and they are taking there time in doing so. Do you know why¿ Because the koreans playing the game are already bitching there is nothing to to do endgame! So they are taking their sweet time and adding tons more content, because it would fail here if they didn't. So quit acting like TERA is so awesome in its current state, because it's not.

[Chrees]

I should say the same with you unless this person was taking down numbers 24/7 it is scetchy graph. over every server. Sorry it needs to be SE saying this proof by your logic.

I also just tell you word of mouth if it is "not true" then my dad lied. Not me. As that is what he told me from a buddy of his who work at harmonix.
And no news may infact not mention anything about dev kits as the public may not need to know. Only that games are delayed.

You used to be able to see how many people were online across the whole server via the Party menu when the game was released, but they took this feature out a month or two after launch. So I'm sure whoever made the graph either made multiple characters on multiple accounts or had friends help collect the data. Either way, it would be a very easy and fairly accurate method of tracking the number of players. It is by no means a "sketchy" graph.

I play on Lindblum, and even if I didn't make any other characters, I know that my server is a medium-populated server, and there are 18 servers, so simple math could've figured it out for me as well.

[Rentahamster]

You used to be able to see how many people were online across the whole server via the Party menu when the game was released, but they took this feature out a month or two after launch.

Yup.

This is something that is obvious to anyone who has stuck with this game since launch and who has actual experience playing it.

[viion]

As always, you leave out the fact XIV needs foundational changes whereas Tera did not. The deepest changes they've done non-content wise wasn't a complete overhaul of it's base systems.

TERA Did need a lot of changes, but you're leaving out the fact XIV's only overhaul is the battle system, that is it. Both games needed many mob adjustments/placements, TERA did tons of skill tweaks, xiv did not because they're doing it in the overhaul, both games needed levelling adjustments and tweaks to enmity, etc. Not every member of staff involved in XIV's development is working on the battle overhaul, do you think the sound guy is? or the texture guy? or the 3d modeller? the whole "Overhaul" is a stupid reply.

Viion, why oh why are you on the ff14 forums for 18 hours a day if TERA is so amazing? You're also bragging how awesome TERA is and how poor FF14 is, yet you are always here on the forums. So either A) you have never played TERA and are talking out of your ass or B) TERA SUCKS. Which is it?
ps. TERA isn't even released in America yet and they are taking there time in doing so. Do you know why¿ Because the koreans playing the game are already bitching there is nothing to to do endgame! So they are taking their sweet time and adding tons more content, because it would fail here if they didn't. So quit acting like TERA is so awesome in its current state, because it's not.

It is. I play TERA but not lots because I can only play when my Korean friend is on to help translate the story. But it is so much fun, othertimes im busy working. I dont spend a lot of time on here, I just have the site up 24/7 on my iPad and I'll tap on to hit refresh and see whats going and reply as so on.

The wait to make it international is not due to content is due to localization. TERA is fully voiced for story and is also 3 times larger than XIV in its current state. So takes time to translate and adjust.

They have already started fixing endgame issues so your comment is out of date.

Not to mention they're doing an expansion pack for this summer which NA getting for free

[AshTS]

Viion, why oh why are you on the ff14 forums for 18 hours a day if TERA is so amazing? You're also bragging how awesome TERA is and how poor FF14 is, yet you are always here on the forums. So either A) you have never played TERA and are talking out of your ass or B) TERA SUCKS. Which is it?
ps. TERA isn't even released in America yet and they are taking there time in doing so. Do you know why¿ Because the koreans playing the game are already bitching there is nothing to to do endgame! So they are taking their sweet time and adding tons more content, because it would fail here if they didn't. So quit acting like TERA is so awesome in its current state, because it's not.

I have played K-TERA. The reason I don't anymore is no more translation patch.

The reason TERA fans still post here is the game isn't out in NA yet.

When it's released, XIV's numbers will go from 36k to 25k like that.

[Punxsutawney]

I think that when all the TERA fans leave this game to play TERA, this game and these forums will be better off honestly. 14 is a mess but viion's, Neptune's, gifthorse's, and all the other trolls constant bitching and whining are hindering the true purpose of these forums, which is to get this game in the right direction. Honestly I hope TERA does well, and keeps you all out of the FF 14 forums for good.

[Rentahamster]

I think that when all the TERA fans leave this game to play TERA, this game and these forums will be better off honestly. 14 is a mess but viion's, Neptune's, gifthorse's, and all the other trolls constant bitching and whining are hindering the true purpose of these forums, which is to get this game in the right direction. Honestly I hope TERA does well, and keeps you all out of the FF 14 forums for good.

On the other hand, an echochamber of fanboy yesmen does not engender critical thinking. (not pointing fingers at anyone)

We need a balance of people who will acknowledge the good things and point out the bad things and employ critical thinking and analysis to work together to figure out viable solutions.

[Elexia]

the whole "Overhaul" is a stupid reply.

Definiton:

A major repair, remake, renovation, or revision; To modernize, repair, renovate, or revise completely; To pass, overtake, or travel past

So to say it's "stupid" pretty much means "I'm going to ignore the obvious as it kills my argument."

Considering if you remember how they said they're going to be reworking animations and the like (even again recently mentioned this), to answer your question:

do you think the sound guy is? or the texture guy? or the 3d modeller?

You do know the game isn't created by just 1 team right? The programmers need the sound person to do their thing much like the world design team needs the texture artist to do their thing, so clearly if there's going to be a change of some kind, everyone is involved in some way, so yeah, they are busy working on the overhaul as well depending on what's being done. They also said new motions and effects will accompany skill changes, so that means sound and ve team and the folks who do the mocap (varies between studios, usually the ve team) are onboard.

TERA did need changes, as I said, but it didn't need dramatic changes like XIV did and still does. In your opinion it may, but the people I play with shared the similar opinion on what needed changing, and it's worlds less than what XIV does.