whats the point of crafting...

[Nenin]

Wow. ok then. Evidence is evidence. I admit though, I don't buy things very often at all, it's usually just a stop gap while I farm dungeons for gear. I imagine I've spent more on X-Ethers than I have on all the gear I've ever purchased. I imagine it will be different as I level a crafter and a gatherer since I cant do the same for them and kit them out in greens and pinks.

Yea I'd guess 85%+ of market transactions are in a closed loop from crafters/gatherers to other crafters/gatherers. All the gear and consumables you need to level up you get from quests/dungeons. The only time gil from people with only battle classes enters the system is when they need a double melded item for their relic quest or when they sell crafters philosophy tome items.

If you're buying normal quality X-Ethers even those aren't made by crafters >.> only the HQ ones are. The NQ ones drop from dungeon chests and are sold by people who get them that way.



It's such a shame because they've made an incredibly intricate crafting system but only other crafters get to interact with it. I made over 8,000 (yes eight thousand) Mega-Potions recently to get the Alchemy luminary weapon and I can't even give them away lol. People don't even realize they exist because they are so non-essential. If you want a tip, make friends with a crafter intent on getting all crafts to 50. We have unbelievable amounts of great stuff that we end up vendoring.

[Matsume]

It's such a shame because they've made an incredibly intricate crafting system but only other crafters get to interact with it. I made over 8,000 (yes eight thousand) Mega-Potions recently to get the Alchemy luminary weapon and I can't even give them away lol. People don't even realize they exist because they are so non-essential. If you want a tip, make friends with a crafter intent on getting all crafts to 50. We have unbelievable amounts of great stuff that we end up vendoring.

You should have made Elixirs instead. They give back more mp than mega ethers and more hp than mega potions, and both at the same time. Anyone using mega potions or mega ethers over elixirs is a fool.

[Vortok]

You should have made Elixirs instead. They give back more mp than mega ethers and more hp than mega potions, and both at the same time. Anyone using mega potions or mega ethers over elixirs is a fool.

Except the base cooldown/recast on a Mega Potion is 1:30, Mega Ether is 4m, and Elixir is 6m. Know your products.

[Matsume]

Except the base cooldown/recast on a Mega Potion is 1:30, Mega Ether is 4m, and Elixir is 6m. Know your products.

Fair enough, however, I would be surprised to see many DD using mega potions in any case. Poor guy can't even give em away. Elixirs, on the other hand, I can sell for profit.

[Nenin]

Fair enough, however, I would be surprised to see many DD using mega potions in any case. Poor guy can't even give em away. Elixirs, on the other hand, I can sell for profit.

As infrequently as Mega-Potions sell, Elixirs sell even slower. I'm guessing you usually don't try to sell them by the thousands lol.

I chose Mega-Potions over Elixirs because despite having almost identical ingredient costs, Mega-Potions take 5 lightning and 5 water shards as opposed to 6 of each with Elixirs. It doesn't sound like much but with almost 3000 synths that means an extra 150-300k.


I also personally don't like using Elixirs. With a 1.5 min CD on Mega-Potions I can pop one every pull when leveling my PLD. If I need MP on my BLM for multiple Flares I prefer Hi-Ethers with a much shorter CD. For larger boosts I'd rather use HQ X-Potions and X-Ethers. TBH I'd probably use Hi-Elixirs if they weren't so insanely expensive. 100k a potion no thanks lmao.

[Allyrion]

Yea I'd guess 85%+ of market transactions are in a closed loop from crafters/gatherers to other crafters/gatherers. All the gear and consumables you need to level up you get from quests/dungeons. The only time gil from people with only battle classes enters the system is when they need a double melded item for their relic quest or when they sell crafters philosophy tome items.

If you're buying normal quality X-Ethers even those aren't made by crafters >.> only the HQ ones are. The NQ ones drop from dungeon chests and are sold by people who get them that way.



It's such a shame because they've made an incredibly intricate crafting system but only other crafters get to interact with it. I made over 8,000 (yes eight thousand) Mega-Potions recently to get the Alchemy luminary weapon and I can't even give them away lol. People don't even realize they exist because they are so non-essential. If you want a tip, make friends with a crafter intent on getting all crafts to 50. We have unbelievable amounts of great stuff that we end up vendoring.

I agree with all you've said. I'd really like if crafters had more of an interaction with DoW/DoM.
I don't think that necessarily means that crafted gear needs to be essential. It's probably too late to change its cost efficiency as well.

Consumables and perks would be a good start. It'd be nice if all gear had materia slots, for example.
I'm glad housing and pvp will be another useful venue crafting. I'd like to see how that plays out.