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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    You don't need a static group to get DL. As a matter of fact, as a tank (or even if you just use the df with a tank), it's faster if you use the duty finder. Getting DL gear should be looked at as leveling up.**snip** Sometimes you can find groups that do just fine and just need an 8th person to enter the fight.
    I understand all of that, but I didnt pay my sub, form my FC and bring 50+ gamers from elsewhere to FFXIV just so i could enjoy playing with strangers.

    Oh, and for reference, glass ceilings are NOT self imposed.
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    Molly Millions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I understand all of that, but I didnt pay my sub, form my FC and bring 50+ gamers from elsewhere to FFXIV just so i could enjoy playing with strangers.

    Oh, and for reference, glass ceilings are NOT self imposed.
    I'm giving advice as one FC/LS leader to another, I am able to give such advice because that's how I gear up my own character. You've got to do what you've got to do. You can take my advice or deal with the self imposed glass ceiling.

    I've got 124 members in my LS and 65 in my FC.


    EDIT: reached my daily limit so I have to reply here:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The problem is that the separation promoted by the end-game design has fostered cliques, elitism and exclusion. There are now social barriers between groups that did not exist before the end-game was reached.
    I won't argue with that. The lockouts need to go. That's what creates the need for static groups, of course in addition to the fact that we are currently missing an entire tier of gear atm making coil artificially more difficult than it would have been if crystal tower had been in the game at release.
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 11-15-2013 at 06:01 AM.

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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I'm giving advice as one FC/LS leader to another.

    I've got 124 members in my LS and 65 in my FC.
    I didn't say I was going to ignore any advice, though I do think you are misunderstanding the nature of the glass ceiling that exists. It's not a self imposed one, and it can be 'shattered' in the sense that of course I can get DL (except that god awful top) over time. The problem is that the separation promoted by the end-game design has fostered cliques, elitism and exclusion. There are now social barriers between groups that did not exist before the end-game was reached.

    On another note, the numbers in your LS and FC are extremely similar to those in mine...nice numbers.
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