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  1. #341
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    Wow, now those displays our reps use actually seem naked. You guys should seriously use the "new" ones now.

    On topic:
    Too long a topic, I'll keep it short and just mention that I'd like Square to actually pull off a "Haste is not the God of stats". It sickens me to no end how MMO's feed you this tale of "Many stats to enhance, balance them out how you see fit and create a character according to your tastes and/or situation!". Then suddenly past mid-game, and every single class, in every single role, in ever single situation: HASTE PRIORITY#1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionix View Post
    Wow, now those displays our reps use actually seem naked. You guys should seriously use the "new" ones now.

    On topic:
    Too long a topic, I'll keep it short and just mention that I'd like Square to actually pull off a "Haste is not the God of stats". It sickens me to no end how MMO's feed you this tale of "Many stats to enhance, balance them out how you see fit and create a character according to your tastes and/or situation!". Then suddenly past mid-game, and every single class, in every single role, in ever single situation: HASTE PRIORITY#1.
    haste is a great skill, the only way it cannot be great is if it doesnt exist
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  3. #343
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikyo View Post
    To me the response to any and all of the questions or statements makes the persons answering seem like they are annoyed to have to answer at all, but my thought is they are causing their own annoyances by not just simply truthfully answer a question the 1st time its asked with a definitive direct answer the whole thing is bs and a waste of time to read.

    I really wish we could get a REAL producers letter with some actual info that makes ppl say "OOOHHH Ok so thats what you are gonna do".

    Is no one else tired of having to guess, theorize, speculate about what is actually going to be done in w/e area of the game after reading this stuff we are being fed?

    After you read and try to discipher these letters and "plans", "blueprints" w/e they wanna call it does it not feel like you are left asking the same question 100 different ways trying to get 1 straight foward answer?

    So then what you get is tons of threads with ppl that just want a real answer and others that are glad none are givin so they can flame, and thoes that love that no one knows anything solid so they can speculate, ppl that want to troll, rage, whine, and thoes crazy loyalist and or elitist that spend all day scanning every single thread so that they can call the aforementioned ppl trolls/ragers/whiners ect.

    My thought is all this would be a non factor if the poor middle man aka community reps. were either givin direct straight forward no crap info to pass along or allowed to actually see and tell the truth about the things that are in question.

    Why does everything seem like a extreme secret that we must wait to find out the truth about?

    Is it that they just dont want us to know this "plan" or the "plan" isnt actually there to know, and they are just biding time?
    if its the later man the progress of this games improvement is way farther of then we think and I know you guys know that this game being even 1/2 complete is a long way off.

    If these battle plans that are to be implamented in june .... (SE saying june undoubtingly meaning the very last week/day of the month) would it be so hard to actually show us a bit of what they have atm?

    I mean i know if they did come out and say whats up instead of beating around the bush like its highly sensitive national security info, ppl would have less need for forums. I for one would be happy i dont know about others but i would rather play and enjoy the game IF i enjoyed it rather then camping the forums.

    I would have thought that SE would agree that not letting the fans/players in on the real about whats being done/added/changed and exactly how would be the best thing for this product that they hope to make money off for a long time to come.

    Maybe its just me?
    Well thats my rant/whine/troll/theory w/e the f u wanna call it my request/demand however you wanna catigorize it, Is for some maybe some visual light to be shined on the blind that are tired of speculating on what is actually being done.
    i think you over estimate the development process, they have plans, that they are trying, that may end up not working, and things they want to test. Basically you have to keep in mind that they dont want to lie to people, and even though they have some hard plans, they are still in the creation/testing phase, they may have to change or throw out plans, so they only give you pieces, the other factor is, if they give out pieces of info, sometimes in the bigger picture, something works with something else. Basically they have plans, but until they try some of them out and adjust them, they dont want to say this is what they are going to do, because they may end up changing directions, and yes they are still in that phase, but sometimes that phase is surprisingly quick.

    That said, while i understand why info is so vague, and not forth coming, i dont think its the best policy, I would rather here details with disclaimers myself.
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  4. #344
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    To me the response to any and all of the questions or statements makes the persons answering seem like they are annoyed to have to answer at all, but my thought is they are causing their own annoyances by not just simply truthfully answer a question the 1st time its asked with a definitive direct answer the whole thing is bs and a waste of time to read.

    I really wish we could get a REAL producers letter with some actual info that makes ppl say "OOOHHH Ok so thats what you are gonna do".

    Is no one else tired of having to guess, theorize, speculate about what is actually going to be done in w/e area of the game after reading this stuff we are being fed?

    After you read and try to discipher these letters and "plans", "blueprints" w/e they wanna call it does it not feel like you are left asking the same question 100 different ways trying to get 1 straight foward answer?

    So then what you get is tons of threads with ppl that just want a real answer and others that are glad none are givin so they can flame, and thoes that love that no one knows anything solid so they can speculate, ppl that want to troll, rage, whine, and thoes crazy loyalist and or elitist that spend all day scanning every single thread so that they can call the aforementioned ppl trolls/ragers/whiners ect.

    My thought is all this would be a non factor if the poor middle man aka community reps. were either givin direct straight forward no crap info to pass along or allowed to actually see and tell the truth about the things that are in question.

    Why does everything seem like a extreme secret that we must wait to find out the truth about?

    Is it that they just dont want us to know this "plan" or the "plan" isnt actually there to know, and they are just biding time?
    if its the later man the progress of this games improvement is way farther of then we think and I know you guys know that this game being even 1/2 complete is a long way off.

    If these battle plans that are to be implamented in june .... (SE saying june undoubtingly meaning the very last week/day of the month) would it be so hard to actually show us a bit of what they have atm?

    I mean i know if they did come out and say whats up instead of beating around the bush like its highly sensitive national security info, ppl would have less need for forums. I for one would be happy i dont know about others but i would rather play and enjoy the game IF i enjoyed it rather then camping the forums.

    I would have thought that SE would agree that not letting the fans/players in on the real about whats being done/added/changed and exactly how would be the best thing for this product that they hope to make money off for a long time to come.

    Maybe its just me?
    Well thats my rant/whine/troll/theory w/e the f u wanna call it my request/demand however you wanna catigorize it, Is for some maybe some visual light to be shined on the blind that are tired of speculating on what is actually being done.
    If your precious Tanaka was still in charge, we would have nothing at all if not snotty remarks and scoffs at the player base questions.

    And the last few letters have been pretty straightforward. New team is doing in one year what the previous team did in 5 and they are having to correct so many mistakes. I think game should be scrapped personally, but got the LS with no other MMOs to play. TERA soon thankfully.
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  5. #345
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    They could have just simply made a statement. Everything your asking about is

    A) Being Worked on.
    B) Being Looked into.
    C) Is going to be removed

    Then just checked the boxes for each question.
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    I rip the axe from the head Covered in blood and brains Leave the body lying dead Ready to strike again
    My sword cuts through clothes and skin Like a hot knife cuts through snow I smile as the bastard screams When I twist my sword
    Sword in my hand Axe on my side Valhalla awaits me Soon I will die Bear skin on my back Wolf jaw on my head Valhalla awaits me When I'm dead

    Viking Job Please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshTS View Post
    TERA soon thankfully.
    Unfortunately for SE (and a lot of other MMOs, actually), this statement is all too true for many players. FF14 gotta get up to snuff and fast if it wants to succeed.
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  7. #347
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    in reality they gave a lot more info than you guys make it seem. The fact that something is being looked into actually means its being looked into, take that to mean a lot of the things you have not heard mentioned, are not being looked into.

    They talked about plans for targeting, abolishing stamina (which actually tells you a lot about what combat will become) changing active and passive battle, movement while attacking, adjustment of high tier damage spells, and time frames on certain things.

    What info are you specifically looking for regarding battle?
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    This Q&A actually really annoyed me. I'd rather them not say anything.
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  9. #349
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    This Q&A actually really annoyed me. I'd rather them not say anything.
    i much prefer the info they gave to nothing, once again

    What info are you specifically looking for regarding battle?
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  10. #350
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    This Q&A actually really annoyed me. I'd rather them not say anything.
    I liked it, personally.
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