Need to put lock outs on over populated jobs.

[Orophin]

So because I choose to only play a DPS I should be punished? Riiiight.

[OldGeezer]

People can't do their roles correctly, Is it so hard to fight mobs in order when they are marked 1/2/3? Hell my youngest kid knows 1-10. Some people should go back to PreK and learn their numbers. Why some DPS choose to fight mob marked 2 or 3 and not 1 IDK.

Not going to speak for the tank I just did AK with, But as a PLD myself the reason why we don't have so many Tanks is because of crappy DPS (not their actual DPS) that can't do their jobs. Just did AK with my MNK A BRD/WHM/PLD the WHM kept trying to do the PLDs job and pull mobs and then wanted to fight a different mob other than what me and the tank was on. Long story short he died like 3xs lol.

You're assuming the tank can mark. I'm finding out that the higher the dungeon the less they mark. I often find miyself trying to figure out which target the tank is focusing on.

[C-croft]

You're assuming the tank can mark. I'm finding out that the higher the dungeon the less they mark. I often find miyself trying to figure out which target the tank is focusing on.

I'm bad. I never mark anymore. It's not going anywhere anyway. And even if one does slip away, provoke and tomahawk is my bud.

[RyuujinZERO]

then be nice to tanks?

put some respect to their job and maybe a lot of new tanks will appear

Wow, really? - Most tanks I meet in the DF are complete primadonna asshats who treat DPS like tools to discard (OMFG, no relic +1 and only half DL in my AK PUG? - I'm finding a new party, ENJOY YOUR 30-40 MINUTE QUEUE!). Sorry, tanks are gonna have to start earning my respect, rolling DPS has given me a whole new perspective on this community.

Tanks as a class seem to attract selfish narcissists, in it for fast queues, and a power trip by lording their ability to make and break teams over whatever poor sap ended up in the queue with them.

[am0n]

The tank shortage is getting worse and worse. It is funny seeing people queue though as healers and tanks to gear up dps. Any currency of tomes you aquire should be only allowed to be spent on the job/role you did the runs for.

Sooooo... you'd rather we have even less tanks and healers queueing because they've already geared them? Your entire post makes no sense.

[baopee]

Tanks are hard to come by because how they have been treated in FFXIV, one of my friend he actually quit playing because he had been verbally abused by other players (MMO bullies). My question is why cant those players spend a little bit of time to explain the boss fight before step in the fight with new or inexperienced tank?

I am still new to tanking, I would study the dungeons or boss fight before I DF or FC it, but there is nothing can really prepare you fully instead of jump in to the fight. So next time when you see an inexperienced tank, please be nice to him/ her.

[dosu24]

Well this has got to be the dumbest idea ever. So you are saying YOU are allowed to play any class YOU want but you want to force other players to play tank for you? Even if they don't want to? As many people say there isn't a tank shortage . They just don't queue because it's better to find a group in shout,fc, or linkshell. If you want to use the duty finder . Roll tank yourself solution solved . Quit being selfish

[RyuujinZERO]

Tanks are hard to come by because how they have been treated in FFXIV, one of my friend he actually quit playing because he had been verbally abused by other players (MMO bullies). My question is why cant those players spend a little bit of time to explain the boss fight before step in the fight with new or inexperienced tank?

Sadly I wish this is how it worked.

On several occasions now we've had inexperienced tanks, and my attempt to explain the fight was met with them telling me to STFU/blame me or the healer and then bail, leaving us to start all over again queuing for 30-40 minutes. As DPS you learn a golden rule of dungeons VERY VERY fast:

Never,
...question the tank's decisions
...try and explain a fight
...pull aggro
...ninja mobs
...and for the love of god, never EVER try and tell a tank how to do his job

breaking the above ruels as a DPS or healer almost guarantees you'll be back on the duty finder for another half hour.

While your friend may have wanted, need or even appreciated help. The behaviour of the majority of PUG tanks ensure that no DPS or healer will dare pipe up and give him the advice he needs, and by the time they are willing to talk, it's because they'll already have decided the run is over at which point the knives come out expressing their frustration before the team dissolves.

[baopee]

I just recently passed Ifrit and Garuda, I would study the video clips online before I DF or FC it, and I would let the rest of party members know that I am new to it, most of time they would share their experience with me, but a lot of times some other members would say something like "what are you doing here?" or "go watch the videos online" or " ohhh, another Mr. happy here". even with that I choose to stay and learn the fight, but it could easily be the other way around (quit DF). People gotta understand, maybe tank is not acting "that way", they are just simply reacting".

[C-croft]

Sadly I wish this is how it worked.

On several occasions now we've had inexperienced tanks, and my attempt to explain the fight was met with them telling me to STFU/blame me or the healer and then bail, leaving us to start all over again queuing for 30-40 minutes. As DPS you learn a golden rule of dungeons VERY VERY fast:

Never,
...question the tank's decisions
...try and explain a fight
...pull aggro
...ninja mobs
...and for the love of god, never EVER try and tell a tank how to do his job

breaking the above ruels as a DPS or healer almost guarantees you'll be back on the duty finder for another half hour.

While your friend may have wanted, need or even appreciated help. The behaviour of the majority of PUG tanks ensure that no DPS or healer will dare pipe up and give him the advice he needs, and by the time they are willing to talk, it's because they'll already have decided the run is over at which point the knives come out expressing their frustration before the team dissolves.

This sucks big. I have been helped out and given so many tips from DPS telling what I can do to make things easier. It wasn't long ago when I was told I could LoS the big golem in AK. Never knew that.