What is the "recommended" gear to enter each Turn of Binding Coil of Bahamut?

[YanDere]

I think people saying AK gear is sufficient are a little short-sighted and/or selfish. Tell me this: do you think you could get through even turn 1 with EVERYONE in the party in only AK gear? I'm betting you'd struggle to down the ADS miniboss.

Oh well, didn't you read above? Or did you just scroll rapidly and put random words together?
HEALERS can do everything until turn 3-4 in full AK gear. Dps need something more to deal more damage, tanks need something more to have more HP/defense.
But HEALERS - healers, not tanks or dps, healers, the ones with canes and books and fairies - can do nearly everything in ilvl60 gear.

[Hiro_Protagonist]

Ugh. Yes, I've replied several times throughout the thread and have read each post. My point--which you failed to grasp--was that if you go in with lower-level gear than the rest of the group that you lean on them and hold them to a higher standard than you do yourself.

[FinagleABagel]

Simply because you pass a fight, it doesn't mean that you weren't carried. If you are the lowest contributor, you've just been carried.

Yes, that means at least 1 person in all parties is being carried. If you can't keep up with game progression, you are anchor weighing the rest of us down.

I'll admit it - I've been carried. However, unlike some I'm quite unsatisfied with that. I'll keep practicing and tweaking strategies until I'm the top contributor.

[KaosPrimeZero]

I think HM Titan is a good litmus test. If your FC is having trouble with HM Titan you're probably not ready for Coil and should gear up more.

I was able to heal with a decently geared (nothing great) SCH with me being in full AK and ifrits cane perfectly fine. never had MP issues (as a WHM). I have since upgraded to thyrus and Vanya robe, however with the lack of play time and Coil commitments its harder than you think to find the time to do 8 runs let alone 20+ needed to get some gear :/ However Titan in full AK and Iffy cane was easy enough (used vit accessories to boost HP above stomp threshold)

[krodin]

a little random but if you look at the stat diffrences between strategos head and armor you dont need DL theres a little diffrence like 3 for each stat

[Zezeba]

a little random but if you look at the stat diffrences between strategos head and armor you dont need DL theres a little diffrence like 3 for each stat

Strategos Head + Chest to Darklight Cowl
+7 Mind, +6 Vit, -5 Piety, +29 Det, -28 Spell Speed for a Total of 3% larger heals and 2% larger throughput.

Not an upgrade at all...

[Budi]

Ugh. Yes, I've replied several times throughout the thread and have read each post. My point--which you failed to grasp--was that if you go in with lower-level gear than the rest of the group that you lean on them and hold them to a higher standard than you do yourself.

Because healing for 3-4% more is going to matter. Not.

Simply because you pass a fight, it doesn't mean that you weren't carried. If you are the lowest contributor, you've just been carried.

Yes, that means at least 1 person in all parties is being carried. If you can't keep up with game progression, you are anchor weighing the rest of us down.

I'll admit it - I've been carried. However, unlike some I'm quite unsatisfied with that. I'll keep practicing and tweaking strategies until I'm the top contributor.

And this is just wrong. In every way possible.

[FinagleABagel]

And this is just wrong. In every way possible.

Yet you give not one reason why.

How can someone who is contributing more than everyone else not carry the group? By simple definition if you outperform the average you are making up for someone who underperformed. That is carrying.

[kayuwoody]

I think people saying AK gear is sufficient are a little short-sighted and/or selfish. Tell me this: do you think you could get through even turn 1 with EVERYONE in the party in only AK gear? I'm betting you'd struggle to down the ADS miniboss.

I'm of the opinion a well organised group could indeed do the first 3 turns in nothing more than AK gear.
Is it a good idea for most players? Of course not ^_^
I do have to agree: if you go in with less gear that your team, you are being selfish. You aren't putting in as much effort as everyone else. But at the end of the day it's the result that really matters. If you can still clear the content, it's not a big deal unless the others think it is.

[FinagleABagel]

I'm of the opinion a well organised group could indeed do the first 3 turns in nothing more than AK gear.
Is it a good idea for most players? Of course not ^_^
I do have to agree: if you go in with less gear that your team, you are being selfish. You aren't putting in as much effort as everyone else. But at the end of the day it's the result that really matters. If you can still clear the content, it's not a big deal unless the others think it is.

I think a healer/tank could pull that off, but prevailing strategies on Caduceus are basically a DPS race. Spawning slimes puts additional stress on the healers, I'm not sure if AK gear can sustain that kind of throughput requirement.

However, if you are at Coil - you have your relic. If you have your relic you should have some DL. If you roll into Coil in AK gear and a relic, I feel like you've been selfish for quite some time. What makes it worse is that DL gear is farmable. There's no cap on that progression...so I mean, cmon - do your team a favor....