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  1. #41
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    DivineAyumi's Avatar
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    Asuna Yuuki
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Stats when I first did Coils 1 to 3



    Stats when I beat Coil 4 for the first time

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  2. #42
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    TimeZero's Avatar
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    Karina Moonshadow
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Thanks for all the answers!

    I've upgraded my gear a lot since the last time I posted and oh god I see the difference. I went into Coil T1 two days after my initial post. I was holding my ground and could heal with little problems.

    I went for AF2 chest 1st and I don't know why people suggests going for +1 first, but upgrading my ilvl55 to ilvl90 chest was such a godly boost in everything: heals, HP, spell speed. My Cure1 and 2 pop in under 2 secs now (1.91 secs to be exact), I got +200 hp only with the chest. I heal for ~1k+ with Cure1.

    I also got DL Pants, Boots, Belt, Gloves, Ring and Necklace since my initial post on October 31st. By Nov 22nd, I'll have my AF2 head piece (depending on how fast I can gather the remaining Myths). To get Relic+1 first as an healer is a sub-par IMO. The upgrade is less significant (for an healer though) since you go from ilvl80 to ilvl90 compared to my chest when I went from ilvl55 to ilvl90 and skipping the garbage DL chest.
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  3. #43
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    Teleniel's Avatar
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    Tele Nariel
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    There are a lot of ways people consider gearing... and even more rules people use for what you need to have to participate. I keep things simple (at least I think so)

    You don't need BiS everything to participate
    Titan HM : 3,000hp minimum, 3,500 recommended. At least an ilv55 weapon (60 preferred)
    Coil Turn 1 : content based on ilv80. Relic weapon on attending class, some DL gear, nothing lower than il55 (WP/AK/DL mix is ok)
    Coil Turn 2 : content based on ilv82. nothing lower than il60, at least 1 piece of il90 (AK/DL/Myth-Allagn)
    Coil Turn 4/5 : i haven't gotten to this point yet. I would say relic+1 by this point, and nothing under il70 (DL/Myth-allagn)

    Now what you upgrade and when will vary depending on if you're investing in crafted equipment (and all the materia to go with it), and how lucky you are with Coil gear drops.

    In my opinion this means you should probably not be upgrading pieces that drop from coil turn 1 ... but rather from turn 4/5
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  4. #44
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    YanDere's Avatar
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    Parry Lyndon
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    Ragnarok
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    It depends on your skills.
    If you can't complete Titan with ilvl50 gear, you upgrade to ilvl60, and if this is still too low for your char, then get to 70, 80, 90.
    I am doing Caduceus with Relic and nearly full DL gear, AF2 gloves, I'm farming myth to get the AF2 robe, but just because I like its design and hate the DL cowl.
    You have to have a gear that can compensate your lacks, if you are a great healer you can heal even in full AF1, no problem.
    You don't have to dps so ilvl70 is not so strictly required.
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  5. #45
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    Semir No'haelis
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanDere View Post
    It depends on your skills.

    You have to have a gear that can compensate your lacks, if you are a great healer you can heal even in full AF1, no problem.
    You don't have to dps so ilvl70 is not so strictly required.
    Nope. There are some things in this game that you simply cannot pass without proper gear - for instance, Twintania fireballs.

    A full AF1 healer will get trashed in Coil, not to mention you'll have some seriously cross teammates. You need the skill to maximize your equipment, not skill to make up for the lack of gear.

    By the time you hit Coil you should have Relic and DL (or the stat equivalent). Anything less and you are basically requesting a carry.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinagleABagel View Post
    Nope. There are some things in this game that you simply cannot pass without proper gear - for instance, Twintania fireballs.
    Did you bother scrolling up a bit the comments, not even changing the page? Yui Mhcp did Coil 1, 2 and 3 in full lv60/blank gear. "How much data do you still need?" (your words).
    The geat is really too low when you can't withstand a single random aggro hit, like the small wind attacks from Garuda. But I one of them leaves you with 1 HP, the gear is not too low.
    I don't know Twintania, I'm not at that point yet, but you can beat Caduceus as long as you survive 1 Regorge.
    And, obviously, I'm talking about healers. Tank and dps must have a gear that allows them to survive/do enough damage.
    I got to Titan with 2900 HP, not a single DL and 2 AK, the rest AF1 and a blank lv49 wand, is that a problem?
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  7. #47
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    I could beat Titan naked with a ghost costume. That doesn't mean its a good idea.

    If you are below Relic+DL, you are likely getting carried and you will start feeling the lack in throughput significantly by Turn 4. You won't pass Turn 4 with an entire group at ilevel 60.

    It has nothing to do with "taking damage", if you take direct damage in Coil as a healer - you are probably dead. Everything is going to hit you really hard, even if you roll in with full ilevel 90. The concern is with throughput. The carry is best handled through DPS or Healing because you can end tough mechanics faster and have the ability to pour on huge heals (normally would be over heal).

    Your gear for Titan is fine. People grossly overestimate that fight. I did it without a single DL.
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  8. #48
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinagleABagel View Post
    I could beat Titan naked with a ghost costume. That doesn't mean its a good idea.
    You can end the fight? The gear is good. Stop.
    Being carried means not doing anything while others are battling, if you are keeping alive a tank then you are not being carried.
    You can do Titan naked with a ghost costume? Do it. It IS a good idea, if you can do it.
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  9. #49
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    Asuna Yuuki
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    The gear set I posted above is what I did Titan with as well.
    I was just too lazy and cheap to buy gear for Yui, therefore I just went trough the entire story-line with Santa suit.
    I beat Titan with Santa, and did Coils with Santa until I was lucky enough to get some dungeon drops.

    Now I'm getting a Darklight piece or 2 every week since I need to cap my Mythology points.

    And you cant say someone got carried automatically. Specially a healer.
    Yes it is possible to carry a healer, but likelihood of that happening in Titan is minimal. (Unless that healer just dies every 2 seconds - In my case I don't get hit once in Titan aside from stomps)
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  10. #50
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    Hiro Protagonist
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    I think people saying AK gear is sufficient are a little short-sighted and/or selfish. Tell me this: do you think you could get through even turn 1 with EVERYONE in the party in only AK gear? I'm betting you'd struggle to down the ADS miniboss.
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