As a tank, I dislike one thing only

[Delorean]

this ^

die to all stupid dps who thinks they are hotshot or something

i think it is important to always try hard and challenge yourself. there is nothing wrong with saying that it is easier to control a group of monsters if you are the one who makes the pulls

People are always in a rush. I take a second to mark mobs, but that second is too long, so dps aggros everything and the marks become pointless.

Why don't you try binding killtarget1 to a key and setting it on the current monster that you want dead? set the mark while you are running to the target and change it to the next one as the marked one is about to die

worked fine for me while i was leveling up

[Zakalwe]

Since it's ok to let a dps die because they pulled, then it's ok to let a tank die that lost threat on a mob since we're punishing people for under performing right? Ok cool.

If you let people in your group die out of spite, you're a terrible player regardless of what role you have in the group. And don't think it can't come back to bite you in the butt either. If I accidentally pull and you let me die on purpose because of it, you can bet I'll stay there dead until the end of the dungeon OR you apologize and learn how to play.

Wait, no one said anything about accidental pulls. If it happens, a good tank and healer will scramble to cope. But if is intentional after requests to let the tank pull, that is different.

Here's a situation:

Say a DPS pulls the next group out of impatience while one group is still being worked on. In that situation a quick decision can be necessary if survival is an issue. It can be a tank deciding to try to grab aggro in a game without forced taunts while the healer starts spamming heals on the DPS puller to save his life. This can lead to the tank losing aggro on a few mobs who then decide to go over and kill the healer (healing aggro in this game can be nutz).

So now you are looking at a group wipe. Ironically it sometimes makes more sense, lesson teaching aside, for the tank to hit the mobs with a light aoe flash, not actually trying to pull aggro from the DPS, and for the healer to avoid heal spams. Once the DPS who pulled is down the mobs revert to the tank, regular order is restored, and the healer (freed from aggro worries) can then raise the DPS when there's a break in the action and the fight can then be concluded.

[LucasB]

Sure, not a problem, I'm sure I'll handle just fine. You're acting like BRD or BLM haven't kited AK mobs before.

DPS aren't as fragile as you make them out to be. I main a tank, and I know that most DPS'es I do party with are capable of handling themselves if I lose aggro to a single target - mainly back when I was using GC weapons, and trying to keep up with Relic +1 DPS in AK.

Guys, no fighting please :-(

[TitusAldin]

Since it's ok to let a dps die because they pulled, then it's ok to let a tank die that lost threat on a mob since we're punishing people for under performing right? Ok cool.

A DD pulling a group of mobs on purpose before tank is not considered under performing -_- its impatience.

if its 1 and im in a good mood il pull it off them, but if its 3 or more they can enjoy their dirt nap. im not gonna try and recover their sloppy pull.

[LucasB]

Wait, no one said anything about accidental pulls. If it happens, a good tank and healer will scramble to cope. But if is intentional after requests to let the tank pull, that is different.

As I mentioned, whm is buffing us but one of the dps straight to mobs while the tank, healer and another dps still standing at the entrance of AK!

[Seig345]

There's always that 1 Dps that wants to run ahead, but I don't let them die, I can usually pull it back off of them just fine; however, If that DPS has been mouthing off like an arrogant moron, I respond not with words, but with inaction. :3

[Bloodwillow]

Guys, no fighting please :-(

It's a forum .. can't stop it really. I just sit back and watch sometimes.

And where do I look up the binding for killtarget1? I am curious.

[Shneibel]

then you have not meet the DD with relic & full DL or relic with some alagant and Af 1.5 that hit w/e they want or even make fun of you.

and no it is not that hard to take aggro back when they do as they please, but those kind of act are no need, really

There's always that 1 Dps that wants to run ahead, but I don't let them die, I can usually pull it back off of them just fine; however, If that DPS has been mouthing off like an arrogant moron, I respond not with words, but with inaction. :3

I let them take a few more hit before pull it back....usually dont take long before they begin to assit my target, but that only work for ppl undergear

[DeeJayImut]

Since it's ok to let a dps die because they pulled, then it's ok to let a tank die that lost threat on a mob since we're punishing people for under performing right? Ok cool.

if a DPS wants to pull hate from the tank, they will, anytime, i believe that

but if a DPS starting the agro from the very start of a mob, then its the stupid dps who think hes the hotshot, the tiger, the sugar, the bravo idk what you people calling it now

and how can you "accidentally" pull a mob anyway? the distance is far from mob to mob... unless ^

[Grailer]

clearly you are doing it wrong . Pull faster then DPS don't have time to talk crap in chat because they will be busy pressing buttons .

Famous lines .

DPS: "Hey tank can you please stun those mobs . " me : ( knowing well that the dragoon has a stun as well ) ME NO SPEAK ENGLISH NO UNDARSTAN!!

Then I get this DPS who complains that Im pulling too many mobs .. I mean wtf ..

DPS: "You know it would be faster if you just did standard pulls.. you wasting a lot of time" . ME : ( knowing the BRD has AOE but wont use it ) "I need to go to toilet be back in a while" <-- now im wasting time son .


These ignorant DPS need to work with the tank and healer not against them . If the tank isn't spamming flash etc then don't AOE , if the tank has a number on mobs , hit that number don't be a hero and AOE the entire group . If the PLD or Healer is low on MP then sing that MP song don't wait to be asked , mob needs to be stunned ? then stun it for gods sake ,don't ask someone to do it for you . Also when a tank stuns a mob , good chance they lose agro while doing it because it doesn't build enmity like the other abilities which the PLD will be using .