DO NOT put in an MVP VOTING system!

[DSanchez]

I've never been vote-kicked in any game. But I don't show up to level 50 dungeons or Titan HM wearing level 20 gear. I can't wait until we're able to kick those people.

[Farmer]

Why would it be bad? You won't be able to vote for your friend if you guys queue up together in a party, and the voting is done after the dungeon ends so that when someone threatens to "vote me mvp or i afk" you can just lie and say you'll vote for him, then leave as soon as the run is finished.

At least that's what I gathered from reading about the mvp system a few weeks back, I can't really remember too clearly.

Duly noted and changed. other reasons still stand.

[Curagaja]

There will be no under geared players in the Duty Finder since they're also adding an item level check before queuing. MVP lets the party pick whichever player was most helpful/performed best and rewards them for it.

How exactly can it be used to bully?

Just because there is a minimum iLevel requirement doesn't mean a player can't say: "You are not in the best gear so you automatically didn't contribute as much as everyone else in the dungeon and therefore will not get my MVP vote."

[Noahlimits]

This would be bad because if you enter a duty with your friend, you will automaticly have some loyal agreement of one of you two getting the vote to ensure the mvp vote rewards are yours before the dungeon run even starts.

Incorrect. It's already been said that if you QUE with ANYONE you know, you cannot vote for either of yourselves. In addition, this is done at the END of the dungeon, so you can't force anyone to vote for you. I don't get your logic. From what I read it's not even mandatory to vote for anyone. If you all suck, you don't vote for anyone.

[Farmer]

I disagree. I think it will help motivate people to work as team and to be friendly with each other. We don't really know how it's going to work yet anyway, just wait and see what happens.

Would you doubt that this would work any diffearnt then a boot/kick system? Look at your fellow player who has no tolerance for your cutscenes during runs or your being under geared... I think this has already been tested though other means.

[Sylve]

Just to let you know, the system disallows you to vote MVP on people you queued with. Yoshi said that when he first introduced the idea.

[Farmer]

if people get their feelings hurt because they didnt get MVP... well... they should seek help.

There will be, and they wont admit thier feelings were hurt, and lash out in other ways, which create anamosity against other players when they enter the next dungeon.

If you did really good in an instance only to find out the vote was based on your gear, watching a cutscene, or because something beyond your control, how would you feel. Would that give you a reward to try to be better every dungeon? Or would it cause you to get angry at the system and lash out at other plaeyrs over an injustice?

[Alhanelem]

Uhm... MVP voting is not a "bullying" tool. There is no way to rig the vote- you can't form premades and vote for friends, no way to downvote, so thus no way to abuse.

If you did really good in an instance only to find out the vote was rigged at the end, how would you feel. Would that give you a reward to try to be better every dungeon? Or would it cause you to get angry at the system and lash out at other plaeyrs over an injustice?

I'd feel fine because i'm not so emotionally attached to the game.

Other games such as league of legends have a positve reinforcement system like this, and the WORST thing that can happen is people will ask for MVP (and generally not receive it as a result). The best thing that happens is people who deserve recognition actually get it.


Again, there's no way to abuse this. you can't team up with friends and vote for them.

[Ri_ri]

I've never been vote-kicked in any game. But I don't show up to level 50 dungeons or Titan HM wearing level 20 gear. I can't wait until we're able to kick those people.

Am I the only one who hates these posts?

I understand that on Titan, but it's not like level 20 accessories will make you wipe on WP, CM or Prae.

[Farmer]

Just to let you know, the system disallows you to vote MVP on people you queued with. Yoshi said that when he first introduced the idea.

Then that would foster an atmosphere of solo playing only (running dutys without friends) so you can get a reward, which is another reason why you shouldnt have this system. If you cannot get a reward if you run with friends, that too is ANTI-community. Why have a system like this at all then?