DO NOT put in an MVP VOTING system!

[Sylve]

Then that would foster an atmosphere of solo playing only (running dutys without friends) so you can get a reward, which is another reason why you shouldnt have this system. If you cannot get a reward if you run with friends, that too is ANTI-community. Why have a system like this at all then?

No, it doesn't at all. I play regularly when my friends don't. Bonus for when my friends AREN'T around? Yes please.

Currently, many people wont enter a dungeon if they don't have 3 - 7 friends with them.
This encourages them to not only go it solo occasionally, but to also try to be a nice person or generally helpful to others in the hope they get the vote up.

Also, you never run a Dungeon 'solo', even if you queued via Duty Finder. Those other 3 people in there are people too and I've met some fantastic people through Duty Finder that i wouldn't have if i only ever played with a small circle of friends.

[Alhanelem]

Uhm... MVP voting is not a "bullying" tool. There is no way to rig the vote- you can't form premades and vote for friends, no way to downvote, so thus no way to abuse.

If you did really good in an instance only to find out the vote was rigged at the end, how would you feel. Would that give you a reward to try to be better every dungeon? Or would it cause you to get angry at the system and lash out at other plaeyrs over an injustice?

I'd feel fine because i'm not so emotionally attached to the game.

Other games such as league of legends have a positve reinforcement system like this, and the WORST thing that can happen is people will ask for MVP (and generally not receive it as a result). The best thing that happens is people who deserve recognition actually get it.


Again, there's no way to abuse this. you can't team up with friends and vote for them.

[realmreborn]

they added this MVP system ? never saw it i didnt get any message when i finish dungeons

[Tribunus]

Aslong as the votes cant be abused and somehow put you into queues with players who are negative or received similar votes then I see no problem. The rewards also need to be incredibly minor or fluff otherwise grouped friends are penalized for no fault of their own.

[Altanas]

Majority of players will take on ore more friend into the duty finder...

Ultimately that's the Duty Finder problem solved, MVP is just fluff...

In any event, some of the more reliable/best xp parties in 11 were those where friends/LS's started and invited randoms LFG to fill in the roles. This is in effect no different.

That said I prefer SWTOR's way of encouraging Duty Finder groups. Basically, there was no MVP voting, rather everyone accumulates Social Points throughout the dungeon.

[chococo]

my only thought is...MVP for a 4-man raid......number of votes is so small that it;s so likely to get 1,1,1,1. Then what happens?

[FayaAOP]

So item check on enter..but what stops you from changing gear inside? Like the lvl 49 tank who wanted to spirit bbind stuff and changed all his gear to 44 and below?

[Terius]

I think it's great. I'm going to rig votes, say i'll vote for people then won't, vote down people with bad gear, because they're bad, laugh at people as their 'feelings' get hurt and fart in their face before walking out of the dungeon.

[Quesse]

I didn't find any specific descriptions in this thread about how the MVP system can be used to 'troll' or abused.

Random people entering via the DF cannot conspire to anti-MVP someone. Rarely you will end up with, by coincidence, a group of all 'bads'. But generally how often will this be the case? And even if it does happen, MVP or no-MVP system you're screwed anyway! xD

[Alberel]

I do foresee one potential way the votes could be 'rigged' and that's through using the party in progress queue... Have a 4-man pre-made team enter, have one leave, then have them use the in-progress queue to get back in. Clear the dungeon and everyone votes for the one that joined after.

It'd be a pain the backside to do and probably wouldn't work reliably in the busier dungeons but just thought I'd point out that it would be possible (unless they disable it for the in-progress queue).