Notice to Scholars in AK groups

[Dreamer]

You should know the fight well enough by now to not even need to look at the floor.

Fun fact, I had one run where both DPS got knocked off at the third repel. The tank and I (whm) finished off the bees, then went back to whittling away at the wall. Due to the low DPS, we got pushed back to the very back of the arena. We could no longer see the void drops due to the floor already being covered, but since we both had the pattern down so well we were still able to dodge it blindly long enough to finish off the wall.

[Flionheart]

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[Yshnal]

First, you don't need to be so aggresive with the OP. A lot of you could have said the same in a less offensive or "lookImcool" way (without saying L2P and similars, basically).

That being said, let's go back to the OP. The only two solutions that I see to your problem are either to zoom out the camera (but I know that you don't want to because you're used to the zoom level that you currently use), or to politely ask them to not use it prior to the fight. But honestly, if I was SE I would change spells like that one to be able to be seen through them easier, as they have the ability to hide a lot of AoE rings in pulls sometimes (not a big problem, but it's annoying). And that's coming from someone that runs dungeons with the camera fully zoomed out. After all, these AoE marks are there precisely to give visual hints, so if they can't be seen under certain circumstances they aren't working as intended.

[FallNSkye]

This has been fun.

[Huginn]

Please stop casting Shadow Flare on top of the wall to blind your party members. They can't see the void forming on the ground when they're standing so close to the wall and attacking it. Thanks.

I know I certainly won't be doing this when I run through as a Scholar later. It's just annoying and doesn't really contribute much to the fight in general, honestly.

I have never had any melee have a problem with me casting shadow flare on the wall.
you should not be standing where the void carpet is about to be anyway and you should be moving BEFORE the animation.
Just stand outside and count to three when you see it start, then move inside.

You should not be that close to demon wall either, shadow flare is a small circle. You can hit demon wall with melee attacks while standing further back than its targeted ground circle thingie.

[Huginn]

Fun fact, I had one run where both DPS got knocked off at the third repel. The tank and I (whm) finished off the bees, then went back to whittling away at the wall. Due to the low DPS, we got pushed back to the very back of the arena. We could no longer see the void drops due to the floor already being covered, but since we both had the pattern down so well we were still able to dodge it blindly long enough to finish off the wall.

Just a minor tip, because you did not mention it, there is an animation that is visible over top of the back side void pool. The pink splatter that comes up from the ground lets you know when the damage has been done and when to move (for those who did not understand how knowing the pattern would help when you can not see when it happens.)

[Nuinn]

Let's see... I ask them to simply not use Shadow Flare for the duration of the fight (not even 5 minutes long with a full relic party) or I zoom out for the first time in my life just to accommodate them for using something which isn't even necessary in order to clear the boss. Now which sounds more unreasonable here exactly?

In other words, you won't change your play style, but you're asking someone else to change theirs.... The hell? :/ In a full relic party no less?

[Reiterpallasch]

I'm a terrible player

The first step to recovery is admitting that you have a problem.

[Thorauku]

You're the one who have a problem TS, not the SCH who's using Shadow Flare.

[Reslin]

Now you understand why I don't want to zoom out my camera then since that would essentially be asking me to gimp myself since I've never had to play like that before. Asking someone to change their camera angle is way more unreasonable than simply asking someone to not use a particular skill which can contribute to a player being unable to see an enemy's attack.

No. We don't get it. You see it as this "Use skill that would make the fight a lot quicker vs Moving camera view out." You choose not to do the latter but ask people to do the former. You think it's more reasonable to refuse to change your camera view (which you can do before the fight) than to ask people not to use a skill that makes the fight much quicker. Changing your view doesn't hinder you or the party. You claim "i'm not used to playing that way" but it doesn't change your play style. It's not like it requires a different type of style.