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    Or, should i be focusing on a certain type of stat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonflyseksparade View Post
    Its been shown that stacking spell speed gear vs determination gear results in the same HPS. So by stacking spell speed, you lose nothing and gain mobility. I'm sorry that you don't notice it, but that doesn't change the fact that it is the most valuable stat for WHMs.
    What is often lost in all this spreadsheet theorycrafting is that spell speed loses some of its benefit if you aren't constantly spamming heals. The extra speed doesn't help you if you aren't having to spam, at which point stronger spot heals with det have the advantage. Spell speed also runs you lower on MP faster, though this is kind of minor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nettle View Post
    What is often lost in all this spreadsheet theorycrafting is that spell speed loses some of its benefit if you aren't constantly spamming heals. The extra speed doesn't help you if you aren't having to spam, at which point stronger spot heals with det have the advantage. Spell speed also runs you lower on MP faster, though this is kind of minor.
    And what happens when you have to move mid-cast? What is often lost in forum post theorycrafting is that in actual dungeons/raids, movement is critical.
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  4. #14
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    That comment isn't forum post theory crafting, it's from experience playing the actual content.

    A tenth of a second isn't going to really affect you in AoEs, especially when many are predictable. If you are eating AoEs by 1/10 of a second difference, there are other things aside from stats that you need to be worrying about. Nothing in this game has that tight of a timing.

    Fact remains is that every second you aren't casting, your spell speed is going to waste. The less you spam, the less it matters. With determination, you get the full effect on every cast. It's not fair to directly compare HPS of ss to det expecting yourself to be spamming cures for 60+ seconds straight.

    That said, I don't really have a horse in this race. I main SCH, so my clear choice is crit. Even if it weren't, the difference between the tertiary stats is so small that picking one over the other isn't going to impede you from finishing any of the content. My primary point is that the flaws of theory crafting need to be pointed out. It definitely has its place, but it can't always be taken as gospel.
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    Did my thread just get hijacked..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nettle View Post
    That said, I don't really have a horse in this race. I main SCH, so my clear choice is crit.
    lol. Thanks for playing.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nettle View Post
    That comment isn't forum post theory crafting, it's from experience playing the actual content.
    Maybe someday you'll be able to tell the difference.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonflyseksparade View Post
    Its been shown that stacking spell speed gear vs determination gear results in the same HPS. So by stacking spell speed, you lose nothing and gain mobility. I'm sorry that you don't notice it, but that doesn't change the fact that it is the most valuable stat for WHMs.
    Stacking spell speed vs determination results in the same HPS but increasing spell speed also increases your mana consumption at the same rate. Determination and Crit increase your HPS without increasing your mana consumption.
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