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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by joshsecret View Post
    why would anyone leave so much money on their person?? its like walking around in the real world with 1m in your purse or wallet... 0.o since beta i have utilized my 2 retainers to their fullest. one is a savings account, one is a spending account. i rarely ever have more than 20k on myself. looks like ill have to truck it to the inn room from now on to talk to them -_-
    Until now there was no real reason to ever put your gil on your retainer... it's not like it should be possible for anyone to steal it. Hell there's no reason why the retainer would be more secure either... if they can hack your character they can probably hack your retainer.

    What I don't get is why RMT would want to do this... stealing gil directly from players actually harms their own business. Why would anyone buy from them if RMT could just steal it back again?
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    IgnatiusCrumwald's Avatar
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    Ignacia Crumwald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Until now there was no real reason to ever put your gil on your retainer... it's not like it should be possible for anyone to steal it. Hell there's no reason why the retainer would be more secure either... if they can hack your character they can probably hack your retainer.

    What I don't get is why RMT would want to do this... stealing gil directly from players actually harms their own business. Why would anyone buy from them if RMT could just steal it back again?
    That's a good question. It was a bit too flashy for a class that likes to remain under the radar. A lot of what RMT does makes little sense. If I had to speculate I'd say that this may not have been RMT but just a run of the mill hack job. They may have even found the exploit, warned SE about it, and nothing was done or it wasn't handled fast enough for their tastes so they decided to make a statement.
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    Last edited by IgnatiusCrumwald; 11-08-2013 at 11:07 PM. Reason: Too many buts...

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    Cynralic Avant
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    i wish they would come out and explicitly say to those affected how they will be handling it. if they are going to do individual rollbacks does that mean i shouldn't bother playing until they do since all my progress will be reset back? completely stuck in limbo until they do I guess...
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    Gypsy Whisperwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by IgnatiusCrumwald View Post
    That's a good question. It was a bit too flashy for a class that likes to remain under the radar. A lot of what RMT does makes little sense. If I had to speculate I'd say that this may not have been RMT but just a run of the mill hack job. They may have even found the exploit, warned SE about it, and nothing was done or it wasn't handled fast enough for their tastes so they decided to make a statement.
    That sounds like a gamer for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if it really happened that way.
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    Shirai N'yankoro
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    Sargatanas
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    Fisher Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    What I don't get is why RMT would want to do this... stealing gil directly from players actually harms their own business. Why would anyone buy from them if RMT could just steal it back again?
    I have a feeling some of these RMT guys are starting to get desperate.
    While we notice little because they keep coming back with new characters constantly, SE is actually hitting them quite hard with their purges.
    Not only their advertising bots and farming bots but also their bank characters and several suppliers are being taken down constantly forcing them to find new ways to fix their gilsupply.

    Believe it or not, there's quite a demand and the RMT are starting to show clear signs of struggle.
    While SE (nor any other MMO company regardless of what some people claim) won't be able to eradicate the problem completely, as long as they keep up FFXIV will become less and less attractive for RMT companies.
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    Felis catus

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    Tahldon Boyoikoh
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    What I don't get is why RMT would want to do this... stealing gil directly from players actually harms their own business. Why would anyone buy from them if RMT could just steal it back again?
    Interesting question you propose here. It doesn't really make sense to me either; however, in the face of SE combating their other various routes of gaining gil abnormally, something like this doesn't seem to far off... But like some people have said here, it seems a little unusual for them to just blatantly attack players who are actively playing the game. Not only that, they did it to a large number and not just a handful.

    But, I must say, I'm pretty impressed with how fast the Dev team jumped to stop this issue from ensnaring more victims. Though, there were people in the middle of stuff who got the short end (Sorry to hear about that guy who lost 9 animal fat in a synth. Ouch.) Nonetheless, legal action has gotten involved now. Hopefully that'll deter further attempts to cause chaos later on. But one can only hope, of course.
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    Well... "Common" sense isn't all that common anymore, now is it?

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    Orsnoire Le'oxe
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Until now there was no real reason to ever put your gil on your retainer... it's not like it should be possible for anyone to steal it. Hell there's no reason why the retainer would be more secure either... if they can hack your character they can probably hack your retainer.

    What I don't get is why RMT would want to do this... stealing gil directly from players actually harms their own business. Why would anyone buy from them if RMT could just steal it back again?
    That it harms their own business is not at all true.

    Steal from the players and sell it back to them...
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Orsnoire View Post
    That it harms their own business is not at all true.

    Steal from the players and sell it back to them...
    Exactly. They already do it with the key loggers they insert when gil buyers visit their websites so why not this too?
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