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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    SE should just start blocking regions where this behavior comes from. Maybe not realistic, but maybe it is a final solution to end this nonsense.
    It would be awesome if SE did this and the culprits happen to be the in the same region you're in.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bien View Post
    It would be awesome if SE did this and the culprits happen to be the in the same region you're in.
    Yes it would be awesome if that happened.
    Sadly where I live we have laws. From past experience RMT are based where SE has a hard time dealing with them because they don't follow the same set of, if any, laws.
    If you have a better idea on how to deal with RMT let SE know.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    Yes it would be awesome if that happened.
    Sadly where I live we have laws. From past experience RMT are based where SE has a hard time dealing with them because they don't follow the same set of, if any, laws.
    If you have a better idea on how to deal with RMT let SE know.
    My apologies, I was not aware such a perfect region existed.

    Re: OT, which servers/worlds got hit? And when will the game go back online?
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    Last edited by Bien; 11-08-2013 at 07:57 PM.

  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    How do you know they didn't do anything? It may be entirely possible that using third party programs and bots are the caused for this. This game is so easy to bot and the bots are so easily accessible, I wouldn't be surprised if half of the population were botting.

    I don't mind the RMT shouting, you'd have to be a whiny little 5 year old if you let it bother you that much. However, the botting and hacking in this game is ridiculous, they need to be fix asap. I have never seen another major MMO that was this easy to hack besides Vindictus, and that was cuz that game was all client-side.
    This statement, unbeknownst to you, proves Reinheart's case. First, do you know exactly how and why the game is easily exploited? If you know the particulars then you wouldn't be surprised by this current situation.

    I'd like to not give out the specifics, but another user touched upon it midway into this thread. Honestly, and I am not being overly dramatic here, if SE wants to continue with this game and not have these exploits popping up they need to take the servers down for a couple of days and implement new security measures. Starting with the blind trust of character data packets.
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    Last edited by BruceyBruceyBangBang; 11-08-2013 at 07:59 PM.

  5. #85
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    Oh wow, this whole thing started happening right after I logged off lol *pats self on back*

    Though I generally like to keep about 80% of my gil in the retainer in the first place, so it probably wouldn't have affected me too much. But this sort of thing really got out of hand this time... truly the lowest of lows;;

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRain View Post
    can be stopped easy.
    Actually, it's not an easy task as you assume it is. Unless you are a programmer who studied game design and moderation, you really should research about such topics before blabbering nonsense. Even the FBI database was one hacked (which said server was said to be the most secure in the world at the time) and you can't call said server crap. Security systems has flaws, there is NO 100% flawless firewall. It can always be breached in time.

    In this case, there are possibly few million accounts on the FFXIV server. To check and determine which accounts are RMT or Hack related is not an easy task. Unlike the first roll of bans, now SE seems to be taking care not to include any authentic players; which only makes it harder. But you may 'Wouldn't all level 1 accounts be RMT's?'. Some may have made characters on servers they don't play on.

    This sort of thing isn't technically hard, but not as easy as it is a very time-consuming task for GM's to track down every individual. Also SE has been rolling out bans (including over 1000 accounts in the last ban), so it does look like the staff is on the job.

    So respect the people who work everyday, possibly even through overtime to fix issues so people like us can play the game. Can't expect them to fix all the problems people throw at them in a single day.

    Sorry for my rant, but I do 3D Design and Modelling and have seen stuff like this on the inside. People who think shit is eazy just makes me tick sometimes.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bien View Post
    My apologies, I was not aware such a perfect region existed.

    Re: OT, any idea when the servers will be up?
    I know every region has legit players. I want a magic bullet to make everything go away. I think everyone agrees something more needs to be done. I've gotten to the point where I can't even be bothered to report people because it's too much of a pain and I know it will make no difference. I only block the people who tell spam me repeatedly in short succession. The rest of it like gathering bots I encounter everyday and random tells it is too much of a pain in the butt to block and report people.

    A realistic suggestion for in game stuff would be the option to report and block someone just by clicking their name (same list and send tell/friend req etc). Enter the same info as before, but the more reports that person gets the more priority that issue receives. They need to make reporting and blocking people easier. They need to streamline how they deal with reports.
    I don't need 3 weeks to tell someone is a bot or a RMT ad account. Why does SE?

    OT; I doubt servers will be up anytime soon. This is a severe issue. I can't even fathom how much scrambling and panic is going on right now. Sure this downtime is unfortunate but the alternative is much worse. Like Raine said above me here they are on the case and I will give them all the time they need to fix it.
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    Last edited by Tallulah; 11-08-2013 at 08:10 PM.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by bootski View Post
    where can you check the history of things you've purchased? i know how to check the retainers for sales but i've never seen a purchase log.
    I'm actually not sure if you can or how so I made a bit of an assumption based off of others saying they are going to check. I figured I'd search for a tiny button somewhere that was to check my own buying history when I was able to log back on. I certainly hope there's a way to check history. There are reasons, such as this, where that log would be useful.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    SE should just start blocking regions where this behavior comes from. Maybe not realistic, but maybe it is a final solution to end this nonsense.
    So just because you'll be safe from this it's okay for SE to indiscriminately block everyone in those areas? Wow, why am I not surprised at the level of selfishness.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXRaineXx View Post

    Actually, it's not an easy task as you assume it is. Unless you are a programmer who studied game design and moderation, you really should research about such topics before blabbering nonsense. Even the FBI database was one hacked (which said server was said to be the most secure in the world at the time) and you can't call said server crap. Security systems has flaws, there is NO 100% flawless firewall. It can always be breached in time.

    In this case, there are possibly few million accounts on the FFXIV server. To check and determine which accounts are RMT or Hack related is not an easy task. Unlike the first roll of bans, now SE seems to be taking care not to include any authentic players; which only makes it harder. But you may 'Wouldn't all level 1 accounts be RMT's?'. Some may have made characters on servers they don't play on.

    This sort of thing isn't technically hard, but not as easy as it is a very time-consuming task for GM's to track down every individual. Also SE has been rolling out bans (including over 1000 accounts in the last ban), so it does look like the staff is on the job.
    I can understand exactly what you are saying. I think a lot of people get upset though, including myself, because of how obvious this stuff is. Like, if they put a GM in a world and had him visit each starting city and then visit each gathering node that holds 2 different types of shards more than 10 people would probably be banned in like 30 minutes per server. I know that this is an unrealistic thing to do for them, but it's just that it's so obvious.

    I understand that they have procedures and such and technical things I don't understand so I try to be patient. But I really wish there was a "call GM" button so I can call a GM and just show them a character's mouth move constantly as they shout for hours and not respond to a request from the GM such as "wave to me if your not afk", not to mention the obvious RMT advertisement that would cause them to take immediate action. I wish I could call a GM so I can show them a character half or even fully behind a wall mining a node, then vanishing only to reappear in another spot. But, I'm glad to see SE is doing something, and making filters to boot. Now RMT tells and shouts are slowly starting to become riddles as the ways they can spell their websites becomes less and less.
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    This is quite a significant issue and a rollback may be in place.
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