XIV:ARR what SE could change to make the XI Playerbase more Happy

[Velhart]

Is it his own game? or just a clone from another common MMORPG to make Moneyfor a short period of time? Think about it.

By that logic, FFXI was a clone of Everquest.

I could of sworn we had one or two FFXI discussions that were deleted this morning because there are too many of them.

I wish Yoshi-P would re-post his long thread on the beta forums over here so we can copy/paste it whenever these topics come.

[Arkune]

Have you even ever played WoW?

seems he hasn't as this isn't close to being like wow. Though I cannot say for certain as I stopped playing after about mid cataclysm.

well i dont know what Kind of WoW you have played, while XIV was down the last year i played WoW with Cata and MoP, and compare both games

We have

Points to farm AF 1.5
We have Points to farm DL
We obtaining this Points for doing Dungeons
We have a Point Cap for a Week
We have a skill Spams and proccs on Skills

sounds familiar doesnt it?

[Rhas]

stuff

Answer:
Find a game that better suits your desires instead of pointlessly trying to get them to change their game. Which they will *not* do. They redesigned this as a casual game, for casuals with people who like the FF game setting. Why do you think it doesn't take 3 months (or more) of straight daily playing (aka grinding) to reach "end game".

Most or your ideas will not simply just happen. Some may be possible with future paid expansions.

[ZDamned]

So... Every single FPS Game is a Clone of Wolfenstein 3D?
Every single Fighting Game is a Street Fighter Clone?

Gear Swapping system? Seriously? That's good combat to you? Let me paint you a picture:

A group of Adventurers are engaged with a Behemoth, the Behemoth is savage, and beastly attacking the tank.

The Paladin is taking off his armor to replace it with a different chest plate in his pocket. He then takes off his pants to put on another pair, then he sits down to unbuckle his belt, and re-buckle on a new belt, and boots. He puts his current shield into his pocket, and pulls out a new tower shield that is taller than he is. He then removes his helmet and puts on a new crown.

Yeah, that sounds like the tank is totally engaged with the Behemoth! Actively holding it's attention, and blocking attacks, while attacking it with his sword.....

If gear swapping EVER makes its way to this game, I will instantly quit.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

We go arround Circles.

Tell me what makes this game different to WoW without Mention the....

Fates
One Character and all Jobs
We have FF Classes/Jobs

Do you realize all the FFXI stuff it's not something new ? Similar features were rampart in the past, and FFXI meshed together like this one did.
Just to point out, the same could be said for WoW too: it didn't invented anything, it just massified and made more modern tons of feature from the past MMO.
SC were new in FFXI ? Nope, everquest already had.
WoW created skill trees and hotbars? No, they were around since the beginnings of MMO.
Open world HNM? Already done way before FFXI.
Istanced dungeons ? Always existed. FFXI had a lot, even dynamis was an istance.
Quest based progression ? you don't wanna know how it's old. This is probably the only thing FFXI invented, the mass open world grind to exp (and it had a lot of flaws, let's not forget)
Surprising, even open world events like FATE are very old as concept. They were first used in this way (i think, maybe there was even before) in warhammer, then re-used in rift, then again shaped in GW2 fashion.

Do some research and you'll see MMO have stealed from each other since after the first generation. The thing is, after they stolen they put their personal flavor in. For now, we have only the FF feeling and the armory system. More will probably come in the future, very probably in the first expansion. But pretending to use FFXI features and calling that create something different it's beyond delusional.

[MageBlack]

Why would SE want to compete with themselves for subs?

[yukikaze_yanagi]

....Do you even play ARR? It's far from becoming its own game lol.

Yes, i play. Yet, i still ask myself why using features of another game qualify as becoming something new

[yukikaze_yanagi]

By that logic, FFXI was a clone of Everquest

In fact SE admitted several times they heavely taked everquest as a base to develop FFXI. Strangely, for the FF MMO community it was so original than everyone want the game to clone his self.

[Tiggy]

None of this is going to happen. This horse is so dead.

[Merph]

blah blah blah

No thanks. FFXI is still running, go play that instead.