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  1. #11
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    Helza's Avatar
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    Helza Azleh
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 50
    Since when does FFXIV app parse summoner dps correctly? I havent seen an accurate parse in a while. but maybe the latest 2.0 or 3.0 does parse it better..
    As far as i know SMN'er dots haven't been parsed correctly since the start due to the SE logging not including correct info on it.
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  2. #12
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    Shadowzanon's Avatar
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    Aether Flow
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    You can use banes on the knights if they are close to the soldiers, you will only take initial damage but your dots keep ticking on them and not hurt you every tic, during knights n soldiers you will do more than you think you can do! Our summoner spreads his dots all the time makes those phases quicker.
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  3. #13
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    Arcanis Bladewing
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    parser would severely be against you in turn 4,

    parser doesn't track shaowflare
    parser doesn't track dots extended by contagion (it's as if you don't have any dots up during the extended time)
    parser doesn't track empowered dots (only counts them as normal dots)
    parser doesn't track crit dots

    and most importantly

    parser doesn't track BANE or any kind of multi dotting! if you bane, parser will just track single target dot and won't count your AoE dot hits.

    on a single target dps, the parser ignores a total of 1405 potency per minute. which could be around 60 dps on your current gear, it is ignoring a LOT more on multi target/aoe fights.

    I'm gonna check right now since there has been updates on the parsers and see if they have addressed these issues, I'll add/edit something later

    edit: yep, I tested it again, it still has the same issues mentioned above.
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    Last edited by glim; 11-05-2013 at 08:42 PM.

  4. #14
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    Shadowzanon's Avatar
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    Aether Flow
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Sheesh thats alot uncovered.
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  5. #15
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    Character
    Hamtaro Kakamaro
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by glim View Post
    parser would severely be against you in turn 4,

    parser doesn't track shaowflare
    parser doesn't track dots extended by contagion (it's as if you don't have any dots up during the extended time)
    parser doesn't track empowered dots (only counts them as normal dots)
    parser doesn't track crit dots

    and most importantly

    parser doesn't track BANE or any kind of multi dotting! if you bane, parser will just track single target dot and won't count your AoE dot hits.

    on a single target dps, the parser ignores a total of 1405 potency per minute. which could be around 60 dps on your current gear, it is ignoring a LOT more on multi target/aoe fights.

    I'm gonna check right now since there has been updates on the parsers and see if they have addressed these issues, I'll add/edit something later

    edit: yep, I tested it again, it still has the same issues mentioned above.
    and for this reason I was shunned by my FC when we tried turn 4. I was told SMN is too weak for it. T_T
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  6. #16
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    paradigmfellow's Avatar
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    Character
    Trance Paradinefellow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    I appreciate everyone's discussions.
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  7. #17
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    Horaiyo Shirou
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Good to know about bane'ing the solider/knights. I'll have to get our tanks to stack them up so I can throw banes out on both groups. Now that I'm thinking about it, will shadowflare get reflected back at all? I always avoid letting it hit the knight, but thinking about how the spell works it would make sense that it wouldn't be reflected back.
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  8. #18
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    Character
    Torin Escarpa
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by horaiyo View Post
    Good to know about bane'ing the solider/knights. I'll have to get our tanks to stack them up so I can throw banes out on both groups. Now that I'm thinking about it, will shadowflare get reflected back at all? I always avoid letting it hit the knight, but thinking about how the spell works it would make sense that it wouldn't be reflected back.
    Shadowflare is not reflected back.
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  9. #19
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    Horaiyo Shirou
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Also good to know.
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  10. #20
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Summoner is basically the most effective DPS class in the game for most of Turn 4 due to the SMN's highly-efficient multi-target (but not AOE) capability.
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