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  1. #21
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    Trance Paradinefellow
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Summoner is basically the most effective DPS class in the game for most of Turn 4 due to the SMN's highly-efficient multi-target (but not AOE) capability.
    I wish a lot of people from Balmung could read your post.
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    Last edited by paradigmfellow; 11-06-2013 at 11:21 PM.

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    Regis Trahein
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    The parser is terrible for summoners. When you using raging strikes your dots increase in damage but the parser doesn't count it. The parser doesn't count when your dots crit. Basically SMN DPS is always going to appear shit in any parser compared to everyone else. If you are ever above anyone else in the parser then they are terrible as DPS.

    That aside the following is assuming you are DPSing with 2 casters in your group:

    Phase 1: (Spiders)
    BioII, Miasma, Bio, Shadow Flare, Miasma II, focus single target (don't forget to put Garuda on highest DPS spider)

    Phase 2: (2xSoldier, 2xKnight)
    MT's Soldier: RS, BioII,Miasma,Bio,Fester,Thunder,Ruin spam, Fester, Ruin spam until its dead
    OT's Soldier: BioII, Miasma, Bio, Fester, Thunder, Rouse, Ruin spam until death.........(Consider using a second Fester here if you and other caster can't kill the soldiers before dread

    Phase 3: (Dread)
    Pop Potion-->Single Target rotation as well as Rouse,Spur,Enkindle,Contagion, and Fester (When it's low on HP make sure you have at least 1 pref. 2 Aetherflow stacks left)

    I won't list the rest of the fight because I don't want to spoil it but essentially those are the rotations I use in my group.
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  3. #23
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by paradigmfellow View Post
    I wish a lot of people from Balmung could ready your post.
    I think it's time for you to find a better FC or better server.
    Most competent players by now know that SMN's are one of the most efficient DPS class for end game content.
    On most occasions we would be on top of the DPS ladder due to our sustained DoT's on multiple targets.

    Turn 4 can be tricky especially with the inaccurate parser's that does not count shadowflare (our main AoE), most of your damage that counts from the parser would be to the Soldier, Rooks and Dreadnaught.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaindew View Post
    I think it's time for you to find a better FC or better server.
    Most competent players by now know that SMN's are one of the most efficient DPS class for end game content.
    On most occasions we would be on top of the DPS ladder due to our sustained DoT's on multiple targets.

    Turn 4 can be tricky especially with the inaccurate parser's that does not count shadowflare (our main AoE), most of your damage that counts from the parser would be to the Soldier, Rooks and Dreadnaught.
    The FC that I am in has been helpful. However, I have to seek a pug group for turn 4 because not everyone is ready for it. It has been the pug groups that have said that. As a matter of fact, whenever we attempt turn 4 (twice now) I have had better luck with them than the pugs. Especially yesterday since I picked up more allagan gear. The FC decided to do two coil groups but not everyone is ready for turn 4. When the top level people in the FC get together, they can do turn 4.
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    Last edited by paradigmfellow; 11-07-2013 at 01:42 AM.

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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I remember a while ago Keeve saying that bane could only hit 3 or 4 targets, has this been fixed? I could see that being a major reason to not take a summoner (since they wouldn't hit all bugs during the rook/bug phase between first and second dread).
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  6. #26
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    Bane is so strong that that would be overpowered. SMNs already wreck face with the multi-target phases like the Soldier/Knights. Let the BLMs have some spotlight time on the bugs :P.
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    Yoi Chi
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQjrVlylucA
    my POV on turn 4 we farm this each week however at the end of this recording my computer BSOD'd me but I posted for other reasons
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd0dVrdkyyI
    Scholars PoV on turn 4

    Summoner DPS is super strong in all turns imo, It's not as apparent on parsers because of the indirectness of our damage.

    I realize that the first video is a little low quality I'll record all of the turns monday and post better encoded full HD Videos on monday.
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    Last edited by Lodiodrive; 11-07-2013 at 04:50 AM.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by PiedPiper View Post
    I remember a while ago Keeve saying that bane could only hit 3 or 4 targets, has this been fixed? I could see that being a major reason to not take a summoner (since they wouldn't hit all bugs during the rook/bug phase between first and second dread).
    Apparently Bane was always meant to hit 3 targets (4 targets with dots). They are not changing that, they are only changing the text to reflect this.
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    You also have to consider that your 3 dots(on four targets)+shadowflare+Miasma2 spam is probably more or nearly the same damage than a BLMS fire 2 across six targets. You can also long cast bio 2 followed by bio 1 on those that arent affected by bain... Shadowflare ticks for 100 every 3 seconds and my miasma 2 on impact hits for about 76.
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  10. #30
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    Soul Burn
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I am considering going SMN as my main DPS class. I am looking for just a simple answer on this.

    The soldier with stoneskin, can you or can you not hurt it with your dots?
    If no then your only option is Ruin correct?
    Are you only applying dots so you can you bane them over the the knight?
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