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  1. #31
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    Raminax's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    I should've known better than to reply to this. Randomly acts like a child, randomly switches over to pseudo-intellectual garbling (likely using some random internet rant generator). He's impossible.

    I'm waiting to see people post actual facts/maths (instead of lolrngcrits) and him decrying it, stating that they're awful at mathematics. And then not provide a single example of why it's flawed. As usual. Sigh. Though I suppose this is what a troll does.

    Also, I'll be charitable. Yoshi-P stated that why Paladins aren't getting nerfed currently is because people are relying on the strategy of using cooldowns to survive past 3 stacks. Thus why Warriors are likely getting some sort of bandaid fix to make Coil more enjoyable for 'em (and to not force people to relearn the encounter).

    From Reinhart's translation of the latest Letter from the Producer Live:

    y; Alright starting with Warrior, people are saying Warriors are weak but I wanted to talk about that one
    y; First when saying weak, people are comparing to Paladins. The main part of this comes from
    y; Bahamut’s Coil, the first and fourth turn monster.
    y; This is something we didn’t predict and it is our miss, the boss monster buffs and once this boss monster stacks 3 buffs and when it does that the Tank isn’t supposed to be able to withstand the attacks and it’s designed so you can’t clear that way.
    y; However Paladin was able to withstand those attacks and we weren’t predicting that.
    y; We designed it where it required to take off those buffs, or take down all the mobs where the DPS and tanks are balanced out to clear but Paladin was able to pass that.
    y; When we discussed on what to do in regards this one, instead of making the contents harder, since people already have rewards and strategies down, it won’t be fair
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    Last edited by Raminax; 11-04-2013 at 09:55 PM.

  2. #32
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    Tanaya Makers
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I find it hilarious that people are saying Paladin takes more spike damage than WAR in T1 when we have over 6 cooldowns that we can rotate.
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  3. #33
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    Lucavern D'karnak
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Honest question: how long did you tank it at 5 stacks for?
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  4. #34
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    Shadowzanon's Avatar
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    Aether Flow
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Anything is possible with a good group that knows what to do. Ours have 4 viruses, 4 eye for an eye, a bard that can debuff, we rotate it well that the boss or target can be debuffed through the entirety of the fight.
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  5. #35
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    Selrea Mandragoran
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavern View Post
    Honest question: how long did you tank it at 5 stacks for?
    Well we decided not to feed slime's and burn snakes down does that answer your question?

    His was the last one to die.
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    Last edited by Solduios; 11-04-2013 at 04:48 PM.

  6. #36
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Solduios View Post
    Well we decided not to feed slime's and burn snakes down does that answer your question?

    His was the last one to die.
    So not long then. That's what I figured.
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  7. #37
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    Paikis Pryslack
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Our first kill was with my add at 7 stacks. I died at 7, but survived 5 and 6 stacks as a WAR.

    /shrug

    EDIT: I had +1 relic, full darklight armour, and full crafted gryphonskin with Parry and Vit melds. I was being healed by a WHM with +1 relic and full darklight everything else.
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    Last edited by Paikis; 11-04-2013 at 10:41 PM.

  8. #38
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    Symbiant Disciple
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 60
    5 stacks on a joined snake is somewhat impressive but, 5 stacks on a split snake is not a big deal. The stacks on the split are far less then the joined.
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  9. #39
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    Yagrush Dire
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Clearing turn 1 as a Warrior myself, I don't have the heart to brag about clearing it because I have enough awareness to realize that I barely had room to outplay the boss mechanics and it was almost entirely the healer's fight.
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  10. #40
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    Kayu Boo
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Damage is halved when split. 5 stacks on add is less than 3 stacks when joined. Working as intended. Not saying it's easy to heal through, as others have said.
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