Summoner - The whining needs to stop.

[silentwindfr]

i have read funny comment there, it's quite easy to keep the hate from the summoner, even the one with relic+1. even in paladin...

if you only use flash you have it wrong...
generally i start the fight like this.
- Flashx3, that give me time to begin to build hate against the focus target.
- i do Fast blade> savage blade on the focus target, do rage of halone on another target.
- come back to the focus target and redo fast blade> savage blade on the focus target rage of halone on another target, by security i send a flash at this time.

after it's simply check the hate bar of each target, but is not that hard... you simply need to work with your skill!

Flash is not the only way to do multi-tanking...

[Hiroradius]

This is how it works for me.

Pulls 3 mobs, I focus on main target. Miasma, Bio 2, Bio, Bane, Lightning, Shadow flare, tab, Lightning, tab Lightning.
Now if I'm pulling the OTHER 2 non focus to me because of this, the tank is not doing his/her job. If I pull 1 of them, the tank is doing his/her job but just can't keep up with me which is ok, if I don't pull either one, the tank is a great tank, let's add him/her to my friend's list and invite him/her to coil.

I've had to in a few dungeons, use Titan because the tank could not hold agro on more than one target, so I send Titan at the last focus target, and have him tank that one, and I focus on that one, spread my dots to the others and everything always works.

As a summoner in random dungeons, don't be afraid to call titan, and if the tank complains, just tell him/her "My dps is too high for you to hold full threat, so this way you can focus better and the healer and myself won't die"

Also if you are pulling threat off the tank, odds are the healer will pull threat for healing agro too, so again Titan keeps the group alive and still moving quickly.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Not spreading dots really gimps the class but I'll stop and ask if the tank is having trouble with aggro.

[Ronzeru]

So.... all i've heard throughout the majority of this thread is, 'I don't need to be a team player, just do your job so I can do mine'.

GG lol

[Karnage720]

snip.

This is exactly what I've been doing, rotation is slightly different but same concept. Luckily I always run with my +1 pld friend so I don't pull hate off of him.

[JazerCamacho]

If people put this much effort irl youd all be rich married to super models driving expensive cars.

[pandabearcat]

Your tanks need to get full Penta meld iLvL70 HQ gryphonskin acc. for their right side slots. Our tank's DPS went from ~70 to ~130 after the switch.

What should they meld? This is interesting to see, do they meld crit/det? Or something else?

[T0rin]

What should they meld? This is interesting to see, do they meld crit/det? Or something else?

Crit/Parry from what I recall. A warrior in my FC has done full pentamelds on his jewelry and does great DPS. (for a tank) He can out-DPS most Relic/DL DPS class in WPSR, it is only when they get Relic + 1 and some i90 that they more often pull ahead.

[Maelwys]

Crit/Parry from what I recall

If we're talking about the HQ Gryphonskin Gear then it's +Vit primarily (cap is +10, so need a Mark IV and a Mark III Materia), then +Parry (cap is +12, so need two Mark IIIs).
Last meld is +Det on the rings [cap is 8, a Mark IV gives you +6] and +Crit on the Neck, Ear and Wrist [cap is 12, a Mark IV gives you +9]
(Technically the Ear gear isn't Gryphonskin but "Rosegold Earcuffs"... however the stats are largely the same as the other Gryphonskin gear)

Last time I ran the numbers, effectively compared to the standard i90 +Vit accessory setup it trades 5% of your HP to raise your DPS by 20%, Parry strength by 1-2% and Parry rate by 2-3%.
Realistically since you can only Block/Parry non-magic damage it's only really worth it if (i) You're running without a Healer or (ii) You're willing to trade some survivability for slightly higher DPS and/or enmity.

Once you're fully geared in Allagan/Myth armor, it can become quite attractive to HQ Gryphonskin it up for either a PLD or a WAR... but bear in mind it's VERY expensive and only gives you i70 gear - there could well be i80 or i90 meldable gear out in the near future!!

[T0rin]

Yeah, definitely Vit, not sure how I forgot about that. Vit/Crit/Parry, depending on the slot.