Titan is hard because your camera isn't zoomed out, not because of server-side delays

[Escadora]

I can't tell you how many times I've heard others bash people in game for using Legacy targeting. I use Legacy targeting and it makes the game much more enjoyable because I don't have to worry about carpal tunnel syndrome. The amount of disdain I have for that standard movement system in this game is unrivaled.

[Allyra]

Btw, did you know? The ground under titan slightly behind him darkens when he's about to use an ability?

Did it occur to you that if the game isn't going to update the landslide...it isn't going to darken the ground either?

Also as for your sig, you clearly lost a lot of packets to their servers, that definitely hasn't happened to anyone in the 60+ Titan's I've helped with thus far.

So since you didn't see it happen, it must not exist? How is this relevant?

What happens in my sig (which isn't me btw, someone else posted a link to a youtube vid of it happening) can happen ten times in a titan fight alone. The thing is, you are only going to notice it during landslide. You aren't going to know it's happened to people during say stomps, since everyone is getting hit by that anyways.

There are more than enough people voicing that this is happening (and not just on the OF) to say this isn't some rare situation.

[Allyra]

There's so many variables on the user end but the very vocal ones will shrug off anything could be wrong on their end :\ My internet works fine normally but that doesn't mean there can't be an issue somewhere - Ever notice how Skype will still work even if the majority of your net is down?

You are making a terrible assumption that people didn't try to check their stuff. We (hubby and I) did everything we could. It does seem to be a hop to an ISP issue, and we reported it. Guess who else could report it and talk directly to Tata Communications? SE

Guess who also could be smart about spreading their servers instead of having SEVERAL COUNTRIES all thread to the same location (causing these hops to get overloaded)? SE.

It doesn't matter to me if this is a coding issue or an ISP issue. SE should be going through the channels just as much as us to try and get the issue resolved.

[Babydoll]

The "delay issue" is a problem with ISPs, not the game. A number of people, including myself, dont have any lag.

It is the .3 sec delay. If someone wants to get out of the way at THE last second...they should be able to.

[Sebazy]

What happens in my sig (which isn't me btw, someone else posted a link to a youtube vid of it happening) can happen ten times in a titan fight alone.

I've made close to 10 mill from selling titan kills, I also help with the server's titan kill shell so I've run it enough times to be pretty qualified on this.

Learning aside, every plume I've eaten has been my own fault due to being greedy with a cast, not thinking ahead far enough or simply not moving quickly enough and wasting valuable time not moving in a straight line etc. I only found myself eating lines when I got muddled on bombs and didn't position myself right. For reference I'm in the UK and with BT (An isp which is known for having p2p throttling issues with FFXIV) and I don't use any VPN or the like.

As said before, the gif in your sig is most likely packetloss from the client to the server, most likely a shared connection, queue for regular titan whilst uploading to youtube and you'll get exactly the same thing. Whilst yes, this encounter punishes a subpar connection harshly, you can't really hold SE responsible for the wonder that is the internet. WoW had exactly the same issues with the Hagan safety dance, the difference there was that the movement was simplistic and far easier to remember.

[ufufu]

I don't understand why people have such a thing for Legacy movement controls. It's literally the same thing as standard, except the left mouse button doesn't move the camera independently anymore.

[Allyra]

As said before, the gif in your sig is most likely packetloss from the client to the server, most likely a shared connection, queue for regular titan whilst uploading to youtube and you'll get exactly the same thing. Whilst yes, this encounter punishes a subpar connection harshly, you can't really hold SE responsible for the wonder that is the internet. WoW had exactly the same issues with the Hagan safety dance, the difference there was that the movement was simplistic and far easier to remember.

I am not denying it is packet loss. Find where I said otherwise. And yes, you can hold SE responsible to get them to work with the companies to stop this issue. I did not have these issues in WoW, WAR, TERA, RIFT, AION, EQ2, FFXI, STWOR, etc. etc. (I like to try everything).

Trying to put the blame on me is ridiculous.

[Sebazy]

You didn't have these issues in other mmos because they didn't punish slow movement anything like as vigorously as Titan HM. The only other boss I can think of that timed movement down to the second was Hagan in Naxx, everything else I can think of punished positioning rather than timing. Ps never had that issue in Swtor? I saw all manner of hilarious bridge dives in that pvp arena! Tera was very slick but was also a mature game by the time we saw an NA/EU release. I loathed Aion and Rift so I can't comment there. War was dominated by horrific framerates. Both FFXI and EQ2 were a completely different era of mmo and hence didn't have anything like the pace we see now in Tera/WoW/FFXIV. I'll also add that I played WoW on the US servers both to be with friends from EQ1 and stop myself from getting into raiding seriously (So I went for HWL instead ), whilst I had zero issues in PvE, World PvP and BGs, I struggled massively in Arena due to not being able to pole dance effectively.

Putting the P2P throttling saga in SE's lap is fair enough and yes, they made a mistake with their choice of data centre (driven by bean counters I suspect), but they can't really be held responsible for stuff like Telia's wonky peering.

[Allyra]

Ps never had that issue in Swtor? I saw all manner of hilarious bridge dives in that pvp arena!

Wait are you saying you saw something I didn't see? It must not have existed and was your computer!

but they can't really be held responsible for stuff like Telia's wonky peering.

quote me where I said that. Otherwise, you are just attacking me for things I never said.

[Undrentide]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3leMnErroL0

Demonstrates exactly what the problem is, and its not even on the Titan battle. Watch it then deny theres lag/latency/positional update delay call it whatever you will.