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    Eclair_Xysha's Avatar
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    Eclair Xysha
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    Why are you using that when they're pulling in the first place? Is everyone's hp that low? I never use DS in the beginning before. Just when stuff is going to hit the bloody fan or the tanks hp is just draining away in fights.

    Even during fights I never pull or have agro points build up.
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    Kyomi Dreamweaver
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclair_Xysha View Post
    Why are you using that when they're pulling in the first place? Is everyone's hp that low? I never use DS in the beginning before. Just when stuff is going to hit the bloody fan or the tanks hp is just draining away in fights.

    Even during fights I never pull or have agro points build up.
    Who cares why I activated it - fact is that I was not on the boss aggro list - the tank range pulled, I activated Divine Seal, didn't cast anything because I wanted to wait for the tank to build up aggro and he came straight for me. Using a non targeted passive self buff shouldn't cause any enmity at all imo. I never pulled aggro or saw aggro increase from Divine Seal during a fight either. Since the Buff/heal combo already automatically adds to the enmity I don't see why the initial activation would cause that.
    Or if it means ANY kind of action during a pull would cause aggro to the player.

    On top, like someone mentioned above, activating a buff shouldn't generate more hate then a direct hit by a tank to pull a mob.

    I mentioned it here because to me it seemed like a bug or something that is linked to Shield Oath maybe.

    In any other dungeon I never get onto the hate list until I cast something..you can clearly see that by the hate list being generated when that happens. Yet for some reason Divine Seal acted like a normal heal or targeted cast.
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    Last edited by Kyomih; 11-01-2013 at 11:03 PM.

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    Darkkos Da'ert
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclair_Xysha View Post
    Why are you using that when they're pulling in the first place? Is everyone's hp that low? I never use DS in the beginning before. Just when stuff is going to hit the bloody fan or the tanks hp is just draining away in fights.

    Even during fights I never pull or have agro points build up.
    In easy boss fight (Like WP) I always do DS + Regen at the beginning, it's more than enough to kept the tank healed and I can focus on DPS a bit, by the time he's hurt, DS is active once more. I never had trouble with Hate tho..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkkos View Post
    In easy boss fight (Like WP) I always do DS + Regen at the beginning, it's more than enough to kept the tank healed and I can focus on DPS a bit, by the time he's hurt, DS is active once more. I never had trouble with Hate tho..
    See that is my point. I do that in all the dungeons too, on trash and on bosses and never had issue with aggro either.
    The incident happened with the end Boss in Coil Turn 1 btw. On the initial pull, not the split.
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    Player OrganizationXIll's Avatar
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    Soraxas Straeh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclair_Xysha View Post
    Why are you using that when they're pulling in the first place? Is everyone's hp that low? I never use DS in the beginning before. Just when stuff is going to hit the bloody fan or the tanks hp is just draining away in fights.

    Even during fights I never pull or have agro points build up.
    I always start with Divine Seal + Regen (after the pull) because that is a very potent heal that lasts long enough for me get off 4 or 5 Stone II's or couple of Holy's and help with dps. Then I reapply a regular regen and throw a couple of cure's and apply some DoTs while I wait for DS to cooldown.

    That aside, I am unsure if its even intended to have happened that way the OP stated. Bug? Because as he said it is a passive non-targetted self buff. I haven't ever noticed this however. Maybe its different for this boss? The entire Coils? Idk.
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