We cannot tolerate this...

[C-croft]

You are upset about people asking for Relic +1 to run WP. I said that it is their perogative to have any standard they wish. Ifyou don't meet their standards you can start your own group, raise yourself to their standards, or ignore them. But asking that they lower their standards simply because you don't agree with them is wrong, and it is over-entitled socialist dribble.

Please let me know how my proposed alternatives to asking people to lower their standards made an assertion about your gear level... or are you just assuming?

When you bolded you, it sounded like you were calling him out specifically....

So if someone's standards are higher than your own they must lower their standards just for you? That is even more selfish than setting unrealistic standards. If you don't like their standards, join another group. If you don't meet the criteria to do speed runs, then either don't do them, or level up a class / obtain gear required to do speed runs. Asking them to lower their standards is just more over-entitled socialist dribble.

Heaven forbid you start your own groups for content you wish to run.

[Sinth]

When you bolded you, it sounded like you were calling him out specifically....

Yes, I was calling him out. Because his opinion is that they should change their standards because they are, in his opinion, too high. However, I never said that his gear was sub-par or anything to that effect.

My point is, it is wrong to ask people to change their standards simply because they don't match up with your own.

[C-croft]

Yes, I was calling him out. Because his opinion is that they should change their standards because they are, in his opinion, too high. However, I never said that his gear was sub-par or anything to that effect.

My point is, it is wrong to ask people to change their standards simply because they don't match up with your own.

I don't see what the problem is with asking. Not demanding. And if said group says no thanks, that should be the end. But there is nothing wrong with asking to tag along with anything. Assuming you are geared enough in the first place. ie no AF in coil plz, etc.

[Sinth]

I don't see what the problem is with asking. Not demanding. And if said group says no thanks, that should be the end. But there is nothing wrong with asking to tag along with anything. Assuming you are geared enough in the first place. ie no AF in coil plz, etc.

Ya, that is totally fine. However, his original statement was that if he sees someone calling for standards above his own, he is going to ask them to lower theirs (to more fit his own). This is selfish and wrong. It is the same mentality of "I don't like this TV program so I'm going to write a letter to the station and ask them to stop playing it" as opposed to changing the channel.