We cannot tolerate this...

[Rochetm]

There is a small group of very vile people in this game. The biggest issue with them is they are vocal. People need to speak up and defend anyone being treated poorly for no reason... and being a first time runner of an instance is not a reason btw.

Tanks are the biggest offenders, followed by healers and then DPS. My guess is queue times these jobs have has a bit of something to do with it. Point is I believe people are afraid of making the tanks mad and getting stuck in an instance with no tank and that is a very likely to happen. However.... you need to do it. You want a strong community? You want a fun community? You want to see more tanks and healers? Stand up to abuse anywhere you see it... Report anyone being abusive.

The community is what we make it and there is nothing SE can do to create an environment that is good or bad.

The best community I have ever been a part of was Everquest. Nearly every "rule" of conduct was 100% community made up. We had camps and they where respected... but that was not something you had to do. People let others camp Rare monsters in piece because that was what the community decided was acceptable.

Those where player built rules, player enforced rules, and they where wonderful.

I recently ran Prea for fun with my new relic. A bard decided he wanted to watch every CS. At the end of the run when he was finally done he was attacked for it. One player who was from my server tossed every name you can imagine at him....

This is not acceptable behavior and I refuse to allow it and you should to. This game is right full of really fun people much like EQ, FFXI and LoTRO. Now they just need to be a bit more vocal.

[FinagleABagel]

Honestly, I get more crap from the anti-elitist crowd than I do from the elitist crowd.

Every time I shout for a PUG to fill a group, I give a set of requirements. Queue that white knight that thinks I overshot the requirements and am being a "toxic element in the community".

For people that go on and on about how people shouldn't force their playstyle on others, they sure do complain a lot. Unlike them, I'm not forcing my playstyle on anyone. If you don't match with me, you don't come. Pretty easy, right?

[Roaminggnome]

Honestly FinagleBagel if your calling for people outside of the df system you have every right to request specific requirements you feel are needed. The people I have a problem with are those who go on DF and think that a random group generator means they can choose what the group needs to have. Really only choice for them is to keep dropping until the random group they get has their desired makeup.

[FinagleABagel]

Honestly FinagleBagel if your calling for people outside of the df system you have every right to request specific requirements you feel are needed. The people I have a problem with are those who go on DF and think that a random group generator means they can choose what the group needs to have. Really only choice for them is to keep dropping until the random group they get has their desired makeup.

That's fair distinction.

[Linadae]

Honestly, I get more crap from the anti-elitist crowd than I do from the elitist crowd.

Every time I shout for a PUG to fill a group, I give a set of requirements. Queue that white knight that thinks I overshot the requirements and am being a "toxic element in the community".

For people that go on and on about how people shouldn't force their playstyle on others, they sure do complain a lot. Unlike them, I'm not forcing my playstyle on anyone. If you don't match with me, you don't come. Pretty easy, right?

If you want to personally make a group that outgears wherever it is you want to go then that is your prerogative. It doesn't affect me. Now if you hit the DF and demand quad melded Allagan (or whatever is the highest possible gear) to do AK and if we don't have it we should promptly drop group and delete both our accounts and our lives. Then there will be issues.

DF is just that, a random assortment of possibly level synced people. There is no gear guarantee and people need to take that into consideration before pressing that Join button.

[Drjigs]

While I agree with you I personally can only put up with so much. I don't instant rage if it's someones first time and we wipe, but when I see things like tanks not comboing (like at all) Or using riot blade combo, or DPS not doing something correctly I give them tips to try and better it.

But a few times they ignore completely or just say something like "You're a tank not a dps/healer you don't know what your talking about." That is usually when I get heated then talk 'crap' I guess you can say or just completely ignore and hope we finish the run. But then again that's just me don't know if it bugs you as much as it does me lol.

[Aleksandr]

Honestly, I get more crap from the anti-elitist crowd than I do from the elitist crowd.

Every time I shout for a PUG to fill a group, I give a set of requirements. Queue that white knight that thinks I overshot the requirements and am being a "toxic element in the community".

For people that go on and on about how people shouldn't force their playstyle on others, they sure do complain a lot. Unlike them, I'm not forcing my playstyle on anyone. If you don't match with me, you don't come. Pretty easy, right?

Because while it is nice to have a relic +1, full Myth armor set for WP: It is not needed. So if I see someone shouting for 10-20 minutes: Running WP have a Relic +1, all Allagan armor, and I will do a gear check I am going to say: Dude its a level 50 quest meant to be done in AF. Not so serious please.

[Drjigs]

Because while it is nice to have a relic +1, full Myth armor set for WP: It is not needed. So if I see someone shouting for 10-20 minutes: Running WP have a Relic +1, all Allagan armor, and I will do a gear check I am going to say: Dude its a level 50 quest meant to be done in AF. Not so serious please.

You see shouts like this cause they are either capping myth or farming philo lol.

*edit* And I don't know what server your on but most just ask for you to have relic and full DL (not to hard to get)

[Kazamoto]

Because while it is nice to have a relic +1, full Myth armor set for WP: It is not needed. So if I see someone shouting for 10-20 minutes: Running WP have a Relic +1, all Allagan armor, and I will do a gear check I am going to say: Dude its a level 50 quest meant to be done in AF. Not so serious please.

This,
Side note, I will be doing some Sastasha Speed runs, must have Relic+1 and Full DL+.

[Taliesin]

And here we go again..!

DPS say: Tanks are sooo mean!
Taks say: DPS are sooooooooo mean!
Healers say: everyone is sooooooo mean!

Want the truth? MMO community has gone pure trash these last years.
The cause was argued to no end (new generation, casualization of the genre, Wow, Obama...), but facts are facts: You meet far more a$$**les nowadays that you used to in the past.
Or perhaps do they hide less than before because of new mechanics like inter-server groups (Duty Finder, etc...).

So, for the sake of anything you want, stop with these threads.
There are stupid people in all the categories, especially in this game where a DPS today will be your tank tomorrow.

Stupidity knows no bound.