We cannot tolerate this...

[Rochetm]

There is a small group of very vile people in this game. The biggest issue with them is they are vocal. People need to speak up and defend anyone being treated poorly for no reason... and being a first time runner of an instance is not a reason btw.

Tanks are the biggest offenders, followed by healers and then DPS. My guess is queue times these jobs have has a bit of something to do with it. Point is I believe people are afraid of making the tanks mad and getting stuck in an instance with no tank and that is a very likely to happen. However.... you need to do it. You want a strong community? You want a fun community? You want to see more tanks and healers? Stand up to abuse anywhere you see it... Report anyone being abusive.

The community is what we make it and there is nothing SE can do to create an environment that is good or bad.

The best community I have ever been a part of was Everquest. Nearly every "rule" of conduct was 100% community made up. We had camps and they where respected... but that was not something you had to do. People let others camp Rare monsters in piece because that was what the community decided was acceptable.

Those where player built rules, player enforced rules, and they where wonderful.

I recently ran Prea for fun with my new relic. A bard decided he wanted to watch every CS. At the end of the run when he was finally done he was attacked for it. One player who was from my server tossed every name you can imagine at him....

This is not acceptable behavior and I refuse to allow it and you should to. This game is right full of really fun people much like EQ, FFXI and LoTRO. Now they just need to be a bit more vocal.

[FinagleABagel]

Honestly, I get more crap from the anti-elitist crowd than I do from the elitist crowd.

Every time I shout for a PUG to fill a group, I give a set of requirements. Queue that white knight that thinks I overshot the requirements and am being a "toxic element in the community".

For people that go on and on about how people shouldn't force their playstyle on others, they sure do complain a lot. Unlike them, I'm not forcing my playstyle on anyone. If you don't match with me, you don't come. Pretty easy, right?

[Linadae]

Honestly, I get more crap from the anti-elitist crowd than I do from the elitist crowd.

Every time I shout for a PUG to fill a group, I give a set of requirements. Queue that white knight that thinks I overshot the requirements and am being a "toxic element in the community".

For people that go on and on about how people shouldn't force their playstyle on others, they sure do complain a lot. Unlike them, I'm not forcing my playstyle on anyone. If you don't match with me, you don't come. Pretty easy, right?

If you want to personally make a group that outgears wherever it is you want to go then that is your prerogative. It doesn't affect me. Now if you hit the DF and demand quad melded Allagan (or whatever is the highest possible gear) to do AK and if we don't have it we should promptly drop group and delete both our accounts and our lives. Then there will be issues.

DF is just that, a random assortment of possibly level synced people. There is no gear guarantee and people need to take that into consideration before pressing that Join button.

[Aleksandr]

Honestly, I get more crap from the anti-elitist crowd than I do from the elitist crowd.

Every time I shout for a PUG to fill a group, I give a set of requirements. Queue that white knight that thinks I overshot the requirements and am being a "toxic element in the community".

For people that go on and on about how people shouldn't force their playstyle on others, they sure do complain a lot. Unlike them, I'm not forcing my playstyle on anyone. If you don't match with me, you don't come. Pretty easy, right?

Because while it is nice to have a relic +1, full Myth armor set for WP: It is not needed. So if I see someone shouting for 10-20 minutes: Running WP have a Relic +1, all Allagan armor, and I will do a gear check I am going to say: Dude its a level 50 quest meant to be done in AF. Not so serious please.

[Drjigs]

Because while it is nice to have a relic +1, full Myth armor set for WP: It is not needed. So if I see someone shouting for 10-20 minutes: Running WP have a Relic +1, all Allagan armor, and I will do a gear check I am going to say: Dude its a level 50 quest meant to be done in AF. Not so serious please.

You see shouts like this cause they are either capping myth or farming philo lol.

*edit* And I don't know what server your on but most just ask for you to have relic and full DL (not to hard to get)

[Aleksandr]

You see shouts like this cause they are either capping myth or farming philo lol.

*edit* And I don't know what server your on but most just ask for you to have relic and full DL (not to hard to get)

Same server as you!

I typically shout: Resurrection Can I have it, no Raise, must have Relic+1!

[Kazamoto]

Because while it is nice to have a relic +1, full Myth armor set for WP: It is not needed. So if I see someone shouting for 10-20 minutes: Running WP have a Relic +1, all Allagan armor, and I will do a gear check I am going to say: Dude its a level 50 quest meant to be done in AF. Not so serious please.

This,
Side note, I will be doing some Sastasha Speed runs, must have Relic+1 and Full DL+.

[Sinth]

Because while it is nice to have a relic +1, full Myth armor set for WP: It is not needed. So if I see someone shouting for 10-20 minutes: Running WP have a Relic +1, all Allagan armor, and I will do a gear check I am going to say: Dude its a level 50 quest meant to be done in AF. Not so serious please.

So if someone's standards are higher than your own they must lower their standards just for you? That is even more selfish than setting unrealistic standards. If you don't like their standards, join another group. If you don't meet the criteria to do speed runs, then either don't do them, or level up a class / obtain gear required to do speed runs. Asking them to lower their standards is just more over-entitled socialist dribble.

Heaven forbid you start your own groups for content you wish to run.

[Aleksandr]

So if someone's standards are higher than your own they must lower their standards just for you? That is even more selfish than setting unrealistic standards. If you don't like their standards, join another group. If you don't meet the criteria to do speed runs, then either don't do them, or level up a class / obtain gear required to do speed runs. Asking them to lower their standards is just more over-entitled socialist dribble.

Heaven forbid you start your own groups for content you wish to run.

Actually I am Relic +1, full Dark Light SMN, Moogle Staff + DL Black Mage, as well as Relic almost Full DL Dragon Knight.

I tend to shout and make the group for coils or just plain duty find when doing easy content like WP reaching cap every Monday for Myth. My WAR rocks the Titan axe and is full AK gear as well as my PLD (Dark Light is to ugly to wear) and my SCH and WHM is just the same. My gear is not the issue. I am well geared for any content I choose to enter I can speed run with the best of them (and when I do it is not shouting for a party). It is still stupid to shout for gear to carry you through easy content.

Edit: I have relic top for my smn and next week I'll have the relic pants.

[Sinth]

Actually I am Relic +1, full Dark Light SMN, Moogle Staff + DL Black Mage, as well as Relic almost Full DL Dragon Knight.

I tend to shout and make the group for coils or just plain duty find when doing easy content like WP reaching cap every Monday for Myth. My WAR rocks the Titan axe and is full AK gear as well as my PLD (Dark Light is to ugly to wear) and my SCH and WHM is just the same. My gear is not the issue. I am well geared for any content I choose to enter I can speed run with the best of them (and when I do it is not shouting for a party). It is still stupid to shout for gear to carry you through easy content.

Edit: I have relic top for my smn and next week I'll have the relic pants.

So in other words your argument is: "Stop liking what I don't like?"