This is going viral in the MMO community and everyone should read it

[TheMoonflow]

Right on! How dare someone with difficulties try and play a game! He must think he deserves enjoyment too. The nerve, eh?

So he isn't allowed to play because he needs more of an education? Maybe he just didn't grow up with computers? Maybe because you've seen most of those guides, how they shorten everything with acronyms and post formulas, like elitistjerks.com did which was at one time (back when I played) the premier theorycrafting site. I honestly think you're a special case, and what you probably need more than video games is a personality. Again, like other people, you're just projecting what you think on others. Pathetic.

I never said or even implied that.

What I'm trying to say that the guy's case is not an everyday occurrence.
You can't really blame the WoW community because a guy has special needs.
They didn't know his situation, they thought he was just being bad for the sake of being bad or something.
His issues stem from something deeper, and there is much more than the surface problem of a mean community here.

You are both jumping down my throat without even hearing me out first.
That's kinda mean guys.
Perhaps I have a different view than you, are you going to bully me for it?

[Risx]

In comparison, FFXIV's Lvl 50 cap and with no death penalty, it does not not qualify for elitism.
What kind of risk are the elites undertaking?
No real money invested. An hour of combat at most?
No gear permenantly broken (oh gods I raged so hard when I lost my 2H staff one time at Lvl 138)
None. No justification at all.
None for elitism.
None for ostracizing other players.
None for poor manners.
None for raging at others.

Therefore elitism at lvl 50 in FFXIV is... really empty.
Such players seem to be living in their small, tiny worlds.

Thank you for your attention.
I hope all the continued best for FFXIV's communities worldwide.

But what you are wasting is someone's time, now before the whole "Oh you're playing an MMO I doubt your time is that valuable" you have to realize that's just a huge factor. Consider League or Dota 1/2 yeah there's no real reason for elitism in your list but, it exists none the less, because you are wasting someones's time and fun. If you're actively harming someone's perceived enjoyment out of a game then they're not going to be happy or want to play with you. Some people will complain (or be "hurtful" to you) about it, some will just avoid playing with you. It's just a fact.

Both sides are wrong in this, if you want to be casual then you should play with casual people. And if you want to be hardcore then you should play with hardcore. It's that simple, there's no reason for everyone to get along it doesn't work that way irl why would it work that way in a game? People have different goals.

[Asiaine]

The developers have created an environment where those who lack skill/gear massively hold back those who don't.

No they didn't. Everything up to and including Ifrit HM can be done with little skill and free AF/Job Quest equipment. You can complete the entire storyline with only a bare hint of skill and the free gear it gives you, plus Ifrit HM.

I know for a fact because I purposely went to level 45 using Level 1 gear and the free weapons handed out by Job Quests to see how it was. Then switched to AF & Grand Company Weapon.

Post Ifrit HM (Garuda, Titan) will be downgraded come 2.1. Intentionally by developers.

So no, it is not the developers who do this. Only some of the people who wish to create a bad/elitist/arrogant environment.

[Burstwolf]

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If you judge a fish on its ability to fly then it will think its dumb for a long time.

[Duelle]

Maybe he just didn't grow up with computers? Maybe because you've seen most of those guides, how they shorten everything with acronyms and post formulas, like elitistjerks.com did which was at one time (back when I played) the premier theorycrafting site.

The number of sources for WoW is staggering, so it is reasonable to raise an eyebrow at the idea of someone not understanding guides when there are so many of them out there. Beyond EJ there's also femaledwarf, MaxDPS, as well as Noxxic and a ton of blogs that discuss stat priorities, rotations and so on. Unless the koreans either don't share information out of fear of giving their "edge" away or this particular player simply wasn't good at reading english, I do take the entire issue with a grain of salt from a factual perspective, because the message of the thread (people should be more tolerant of new players and be willing to teach them) is solid and valid.

[PSxpert2011]

So he isn't allowed to play because he needs more of an education? Maybe he just didn't grow up with computers? Maybe because you've seen most of those guides, how they shorten everything with acronyms and post formulas, like elitistjerks.com did which was at one time (back when I played) the premier theorycrafting site. I honestly think you're a special case, and what you probably need more than video games is a personality. Again, like other people, you're just projecting what you think on others. Pathetic.

Now now, we know your the type to defend the little-guy. Just don't stoop too low or lower than the low. It can make a normal person angry but some people just don't understand compassion...
FF is a life-style/ hobby for many of us and for some its a gratifying feeling of superiority. They can't go and be good at something while playing w/o gloating about it. They think the worse of those who fall shorter than them.

Maybe she didn't mean it in a harmful way, but it's not good to judge someone in the first place. :/

[TeganLaron]

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Wrong, I heard you out and felt what you said was wrong. Yes you're allowed a different view, doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

Also, I didn't read the Korean version, but I don't recall seeing anything about him having special needs. All I saw was that he was old and had had a rough life.

So you are assuming he has special needs just because he isn't good at a game. Who's the bully now?

[Acaelus]

What I'm trying to say that the guy's case is not an everyday occurrence.
You can't really blame the WoW community because a guy has special needs.
They didn't know his situation, they thought he was just being bad for the sake of being bad or something.
His issues stem from something deeper, and there is much more than the surface problem of a mean community here.

And you would know if he's special needs or not? We merely said even if he was he is still entitled to play without others being an asshole. We got your point just fine, hence why our posts come off as abrasive, because you sound like an asshole.

[TheMoonflow]

Wrong, I heard you out and felt what you said was wrong. Yes you're allowed a different view, doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

Also, I didn't read the Korean version, but I don't recall seeing anything about him having special needs. All I saw was that he was old and had had a rough life.

So you are assuming he has special needs just because he isn't good at a game. Who's the bully now?

I am assuming he has difficulties learning because it was pretty much stated.
He said himself he couldn't understand guides, and it was mentioned that he had real life issues.
You have the wrong impression of me completely, I don't lack compassion for the guy.
I just think the blame is being placed in the wrong place and more likely lies in a poor education and upbringing than a bad internet community.

And you would know if he's special needs or not? We merely said even if he was he is still entitled to play without others being an asshole. We got your point just fine, hence why our posts come off as abrasive, because you sound like an asshole.

I think you need to calm down a little, you are jumping to conclusions and completely missing my point.
Verbally assaulting someone for having an opinion is not helping your case either.

[Mavlok]

Not for nothing, but this guy seems to have way more serious problems than his troubles with WoW.