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    Tyrith Peng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liander View Post
    In WoW even when things were on farm you at least had to pay half attention to the fight.
    I dunno man i played WoW for 5 years and other than usually the final bosses of instances or the odd boss that had interesting mechanics i remember farm clears being extremely boring and easy, especially when you were geared enough, infact i don't remember clearing an instance in WoW that didn't immediately get cleared in 1 day the next reset.
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    Dyne Liander
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    I dunno man i played WoW for 5 years and other than usually the final bosses of instances or the odd boss that had interesting mechanics i remember farm clears being extremely boring and easy, especially when you were geared enough, infact i don't remember clearing an instance in WoW that didn't immediately get cleared in 1 day the next reset.
    True enough given enough gear you could burn though them easily. But with binding you outgeared the fights in ilvl 70 gear, by SE's own admission, that's two tiers of gear below being fully outfitted in coil item gear. That's a problem.
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liander View Post
    True enough given enough gear you could burn though them easily. But with binding you outgeared the fights in ilvl 70 gear, by SE's own admission, that's two tiers of gear below being fully outfitted in coil item gear. That's a problem.
    You're both right here. BC ultimately will always end up as farming material -- that's how MMOs work with stat progression. However, BC is easier than was intended -- it wasn't meant to be on farm before ilvl90 overgear. If you really want to know how it was intended, try running it with 2 Warriors -- that's the challenge level SE intended players to face. They just made PLD too strong along the way (and probably WAR too weak as well, lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    You're both right here. BC ultimately will always end up as farming material -- that's how MMOs work with stat progression. However, BC is easier than was intended -- it wasn't meant to be on farm before ilvl90 overgear. If you really want to know how it was intended, try running it with 2 Warriors -- that's the challenge level SE intended players to face. They just made PLD too strong along the way (and probably WAR too weak as well, lol).
    Will you please look into your crystal ball and tell me the intentions of SE regarding which new jobs will be coming out next? I mean, hell, if you can read their minds, please share with the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    Will you please look into your crystal ball and tell me the intentions of SE regarding which new jobs will be coming out next? I mean, hell, if you can read their minds, please share with the rest of us.
    Yoshi-P directly stated in the last Live Letter that PLD was not intended to survive as it has. From Reinhart's translation:

    y; people are saying war is weak so I wanted to go over that
    y; people are comparing war to pld, the main part is the bahamut 1 and 4
    y; this is our miss, and I apologize, the boss monster has buffs
    y; once the boss has 3 buffs stacked up the tank won’t be able to pass
    y; it’s set up that way
    y; but PLD is able to live through it and that wasn’t supposed to be that way
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