Change coil drops to tokens ASAP.

[Slate]

like the saying goes............you dont appreciate something that is given to you, you appreciate something you have earned and get on your own

(and before you say, getting tokens is basically giving you the item for free)

[Stanice]

like the saying goes............you dont appreciate something that is given to you, you appreciate something you have earned and get on your own

(and before you say, getting tokens is basically giving you the item for free)

If a token system were to be implemented you'd get tokens the same way you'd get drops, a.k.a. clearing the instance.

I don't think you know what free means.

[Monte99]

Why not have it drop a disciple item you can trade in. IE: Randomly drop a DoM or DoB glove. Everyone for that disciple can roll on it. Once they get it they now have a unique item they can trade in for the actual coil level glove. DoM could choice from DPS or Healer, DoB could choice between DPS and Tank. Once the get the actual item it still counts as unique so they couldn't roll on the glove again. This way almost every time you go in there, someone gets rewarded for the effort you put in.

[Slate]

If a token system were to be implemented you'd get tokens the same way you'd get drops, a.k.a. clearing the instance.

I don't think you know what free means.

not really because you are guaranteed the tokens, not the drop

[Sinth]

SE Will you please change the Law of Large Numbers? I'm a big baby and can't stand that I am part of a team which is rewarded instead of myself.

[Jinko]

I wouldn't like to see yet more token farming added to this game (its really really boring), but think the system needs to check what the party already have and then subtract that from the loot list or something.

It's tricky though because some players want to gear up an off class as well so you have to be careful with this.

How about doing something like wow does with it's tier gear. ie "Ruined Allagan chest piece", a piece of gear which is useless unless traded for the actual item from an NPC. This item could be traded for any chest slot item for any class.

[KogaDrake]

You get 50 tokens (Tomestones) each Coil boss you kill, currently 200 a week if you do turn 1-4. it costs 375,495, or 825 depending on part you want to buy. You can get up too 300 a week if you do AK/WP runs to make your cap. This is exactly a token system, but the only difference is it is more casual friendly as you can get all 300 without actually doing Coil (if you run a lot of WP/AK), allowing more casual people to not fall too far behind in the loot (Coil RNG drops ensure raiders will always get ahead though).

gear progression is plenty fast with just the 300 a week when you consider Coil 1-5 is all we have for the next 4-5months since those doing Coil and in ilv90 is not going to see the Crystal tower as anything other then some fun to do now and then since we already out gear it

[waldo]

How about just be happy for your team mates? Even if monk gear drops and no monk is in your group, still be happy someone will have lots of incentive to level monk. Same for any job. If you get tanking gear great, same with healing and dps. In theory your run next week will be even easier, build on that and be happy for others and not all out for #1.

[DoctorPepper]

Am I missing something? Last time I checked Coil drops tombs of mythology that you can turn in for AF2 gear and also last I checked pretty much all classes have several pieced of AF2 that are better than or equal to Allagan. I think that maybe you should consider whining about the mythology tomb cap rather than "coil not dropping any tokens" because your current logic is very flawed. Personally I love that you have to do the content more than 6 times to get your gear, what I don't love is the myth cap and lockout timer but until there is more content to be had I'm pretty sure those will be sticking around for a while so get used to it.

[HeiZei]

How about just be happy for your team mates? Even if monk gear drops and no monk is in your group, still be happy someone will have lots of incentive to level monk. Same for any job. If you get tanking gear great, same with healing and dps. In theory your run next week will be even easier, build on that and be happy for others and not all out for #1.

Yes I am thrilled my teammates are gearing their alt classes. Read the post before spewing stupidity all over the forums. Thanks. If any of the gear from turn 1-4 dropped ANYTHING for any 8 of my coil groups main raiding class, I would not have made this thread.