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  1. #31
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    Layla Bell
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 100
    It has long been assumed that the accuracy cap for turn 5 is over 480.

    Assuming at least 482 accuracy required, this set seems to trump the rest. Credit goes to Jahaudant for this list. Ignore the skill speed on the blade as it is an obvious typo.

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  2. #32
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    Chad Thunderkoch
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Still, you don't need 529 VIT so there's no way to consider it optimal or BiS if it's not required for content unless your only goal is to stroke HP values or a different defensive stat which again, is not required for content.
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Still, you don't need 529 VIT so there's no way to consider it optimal or BiS if it's not required for content unless your only goal is to stroke HP values or a different defensive stat which again, is not required for content.
    Are you suggesting PLDs should be using Striking, Maiming and Slaying accessories for tanking Twintania?
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  4. #34
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    Chad Thunderkoch
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    You only need ~465VIT to tank Twintania solo w/cooldowns, so yeah.

    The offtank is just there for stuns and the add sections, but the stuns are pro.
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  5. #35
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    Nim Loki
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    You only need ~465VIT to tank Twintania solo w/cooldowns, so yeah.

    The offtank is just there for stuns and the add sections, but the stuns are pro.
    The entire mantra in tanking throughout the entire game has been to get as much HP as possible to cushion those blows. And it isn't changing just for turn 5. Honestly anyone spending over 4 mil or wasting the time to grind the items and not just sell them, is only making work for themselves so they feel like they are doing SOMETHING.

    I don't care if you do 40 more dps than me, a 7k hp pool is going to be better than 6.5k anyday of the week.

    The ridiculousness of this is only compounded when you look at the fact there is absolutely NOTHING past turn 5 at the moment.

    Again, I'm not disputing the 40ish dps you gain from sacrificing the HP is nice, but I'd still want the HP.
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  6. #36
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    Chad Thunderkoch
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    Hyperion
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    Then you admit a lack of faith in your healers or your own ability to manage cooldowns effectively. You may need even less HP than I stated, some may need a bit more, personally I need that much and anything past that is unnecessary and doesn't help the group accomplish the goal of winning.

    Having xHP I never use is a safety net I don't need and one many others don't need either. That doesn't mean I won't have the tank oriented gear available for 2.2 sometime next year when we get a new tier of content, but using it all now is sort of a waste. You can use full DD accessories for everything except Twintania, in which you can only use a few.
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  7. #37
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    Haeen Kazerith
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    You're a tank, not a DPS.
    There is absolutely no point towards adding more strength over vitality because the damage contributon provided by a tank is so negligible as to not be worth it.
    You're always better off stacking vitality, because it then frees up your healers to focus on other players.

    Your logic is flawed on the simple fact that tank contribution in terms of DPS is so very minute as to be irrelevant.
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  8. #38
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    PLD deeps.
    You sound like you've made your mind up on the matter so I won't even bother trying to argue against it. Anyway, this isn't the place to discuss the effectiveness of STR accessories over VIT accessories.

    The sets I've posted are, for the purpose of increasing your survivability, best in slot sets and I'm sure you will agree - so let's just leave it at that.

    On another note, does anyone have accurate base STR figures for each race?
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  9. #39
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Coeurl
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Does anyone know enough about Dexterity's effect on parry to rule out VIT/Parry-melded Gryphonskin? For example, if we assume 1 DEX = 1 Parry, then such an accessory would be effectively -5 VIT / -2 SSPD / +12 ACC / +3 Parry / + 9 STR. You could also potentially reach another block strength tier, but that depends on overall gear and bonus stats.
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    Pixel Shader
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    Feel free to use my own wardrobe style PLD equipment spreadsheet.
    @Jahaudant I added your equipment spreadsheet as a resource on my guide and embedded the tables into the gear post on the Paladin Tanking Compendium. Please note the embedded tables are to align with data submitted from Eein Black. Thank you both for your hard work.
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    I have approximate knowledge of many things.

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