Myth tomb cap should be per job

[Nero]

Actually we do!

The new AF gears shown in the live letter are due to be released in 2.2

Oh hai Hiir. Yes, but how will be obtain it? Will it be a Quest, or Dungeon Drop, or upgrade from current myth-gear, or a different kind of tome? Personally i wouldnt be surprised if it would be the the latter. The point is, as more Content we will get the more options to gear we will get. So it could be possible to gear out 1 Job with "AF1.5", "Allagan" and one with "AF2".. etcetc

I'll address the rest of your post. I can already gear 9 jobs, they just have to be on separate characters. Is not one of the defining features of this game the fact you can play all classes on one character? Why did they even give you the ability to job change if they are only going to let you gear up one or two of them per character?

Does it make sense to cripple one of your game's only unique features and make it so hardcore players have to run the main story nine times to keep all their gear up to date?

Would it be better to gear all Job like 2-3 Month after Release? People would just leave, since they have geared everything and have nothing to do anymore. I understand where you are coming from, but personally i like it the way we have it. Gearing out several Jobs with "Top Gear" currently just does take time, nothing else is preventing you from gearing out all classes.

Will gear become obselete at one point? Yes, that goes for most MMO's. But that is what i have said.. we do not know, if there will be also horizontal progression and also other ways of obtaining "new gear". Lets just assume we will have 6 different types of Tomes by end of 2014, and like 10 Endgame Dungeons total which drop valuable gear; it could be possible to have at least 4-5 different top-gear sets with similiar stats, or some BiS you can go after.

It comes down to being a "time sink", but is that really a bad thing? I dont think it is, if done right. If i see people in full DL-Gear, its nothing special really unlike 1.0. If i now see people with 4-5 or even more Allagan + their "AF1.5" it feels like they have achieved something, but that is prolly just me. The other side would be everyone being geared with Top-Gear within a couple weeks. And then? Topic incoming; "I am fully geared, bored, ragequit." SE can not and no company will ever be able to please everyone.

In fact I think you made a thread about how bored you are after Coil runs.

That was not me. O_o

[HiirNoivl]

Oh hai Hiir. etcetc

Well of course. For me it's not the gears, it's the caps on the content. I would love to gear up everything on one character AND play my endgame content on something other than tank. (I LOVE SMN!) But the odds of me playing SMN on Coil is slim to none because people need tanks > people need dps. Plus my tank is level 90 while other people's DPS is level 90. So is anyone going to take me on the 1 Coil run of the week on SMN, and bench a DPS committed player, just because I freakin' feel like playing SMN this week?

Heck to the NO.



So I'm leveling another character so I can at least play Coil and gear up my SMN character on off days.

That's my issue. I don't care that that I'm capped on gear or it will take 3 months to gear up more than one job. It took longer in 1.0 with the stupid random DL drop rate (lol remember that?) What I care about is the fact that I'm capped on CONTENT and I'm bored all week...

I see no prospect of this ever changing. I have no reason to believe that Crystal Tower won't be capped and the next 5 turns of Bahamut won't be capped as well. Weekly resets on endgame content will continue until some rep comes up here and says otherwise.

In fact I think you made a thread about how bored you are after Coil runs.

[Shaddix]

Would it be better to gear all Job like 2-3 Month after Release? People would just leave, since they have geared everything and have nothing to do anymore. I understand where you are coming from, but personally i like it the way we have it. Gearing out several Jobs with "Top Gear" currently just does take time, nothing else is preventing you from gearing out all classes.

People can already gear all job in 2-3 months after release, they just need to use alts. And if that is the concern, they can just reduce the droprates or the amount of myth acquired per run. No need for a weekly timer.

[Zenaku]

Oh hai Hiir. Yes, but how will be obtain it? Will it be a Quest, or Dungeon Drop, or upgrade from current myth-gear, or a different kind of tome? Personally i wouldnt be surprised if it would be the the latter. The point is, as more Content we will get the more options to gear we will get. So it could be possible to gear out 1 Job with "AF1.5", "Allagan" and one with "AF2".. etcetc

If it really coming out in 1.22 patch that when they added new turns to bahamut coil. So new set of allgan with a new set of AF lol meaning in about 3-6month you start over lol. I never play this type of MMO 1.0 and FFXI was noting like this but people say it's a normal thing. Yoshi-p Said 1.21=crystal 1.22=coil then 1.23=crystal then 1.24=coil and so on. Which mean every 6month if they follow there big patch every 3month thing. You would have 6month to get the new set of gear then make gil or gear other job too the next set of gear come out.

[Crescent_Dusk]

Are people seriously saying that the reason people stay in a MMO is because gear is withheld from them? What are you, 5? Since when does game development need to become paternalistic?

[Overon]

Are people seriously saying that the reason people stay in a MMO is because gear is withheld from them? What are you, 5? Since when does game development need to become paternalistic?

If you have everything there is no point in playing , games are about achieving goals and rewards , what is the point of goals if all the rewards are earned ?
Friends ? No they will leave too , no one wants to play a game with nothing to be earned and as long as there is items , gear.....etc to be earned people like yourself will come out and say that its unfair or too much .

This thread stinks of the foul stench of lazy .

When I see these type of threads , I am reminded of why I do not buy Fast Food, why when I go to the store I see employees sitting around talking , the Time my Wife came home and told me that a employee asked her if they could do Homework from school at their job , Why are roads are going bad , our internet is the lowest in the world , our schools are failing...................................this list keeps going . I mean why work for anything , lets just pretend and say we did it and get credit for it anyways ......

I get bored of doing CM , AK , and WP spams ...........but if I had everything 100% and all the gear I wanted , I would move on to another game . This game needs more old school ff11 !

[MrObject]

Are people seriously saying that the reason people stay in a MMO is because gear is withheld from them?

As I stated in my earlier post as soon as I hit 50 I grinded out my DL set as quickly as possible and suffered from it because I burned myself out from doing all those dungeons so quickly. Do I need to exercise a little self-restraint? Sure, but in reality it was more about the pressure to be in the best gear I could.

When I hit 50 people wanted to get their relic asap, so I needed to be able to tank titan. Tanking titan wasn't impossible in fresh 50 gear but the MB hit wasn't very survivable with low end gear, thus there was pressure put on tanks to get into mostly DL gear asap so that titan could be killed. Since there was no artificial restriction put on philo the excuse people usually used for others who didn't get full DL asap was 'lazy'.

[Crescent_Dusk]

Listen, when I go play multiplayer FPS, or an action/adventure game, I don't play it because I want the weapons and then I'm gone.

If your motivation for playing a game is gear and not the raid encounters themselves, then maybe you need to think over why you actually are playing a game that's in its base boring to you, but you put up with its lack of appeal only because you get items for it in the long run.

Those of us that want a separate myth cap or increased myth cap don't do it because we want the items and that's it. We want that ilv90 gear to be able to bring other classes to coil instead of being locked out to just one because if you bring a ilv70 geared alt compared to your ilv 90 main you are gimping the raid.

[Overon]

Listen, when I go play multiplayer FPS, or an action/adventure game, I don't play it because I want the weapons and then I'm gone.

Wrong game for you my friend .......... F2P games are like Fighters , you play them in short spurts to kill your buddies and other people , but eventually they die out .
MMORPG is longterm games , meaning 3-5-10-so on years .

Tell me one title that has had as many players as ff11 and lasted as long that is a FPS ?
Not a following .............. I like many FPSs , but none has had the player base of any Good MMORPGs and for a GOOD REASON.
MMORPGs are designed to last long , they give you goals that take time and effort .

FPSs are about killing other players , not about Role Playing a long Term life in them.........

Final Fantasy XIV is a MMORPG ( massively multiplayer online role-playing game )

Edit: My WHM is a Relic Holder , but only has DL ...........My BLM is a Relic Holder that has DL and 2 pieces of Myth Gear ...........You do not need more than DL for Coil and a Relic , so a Myth Cap increase or sectioned off Job wise does not make a difference other then making it quicker for you to get Myth Gear which is on par with Coil Drops .......................

[Grembo]

Myth cap should stay per character, can always clad alts in darklight till you've got AF+1 for your main.

Expecting to be able to kit out every single class with the best equipment in just a few months is sad.