Myth tomb cap should be per job

[Crescent_Dusk]

Are people seriously saying that the reason people stay in a MMO is because gear is withheld from them? What are you, 5? Since when does game development need to become paternalistic?

[Overon]

Are people seriously saying that the reason people stay in a MMO is because gear is withheld from them? What are you, 5? Since when does game development need to become paternalistic?

If you have everything there is no point in playing , games are about achieving goals and rewards , what is the point of goals if all the rewards are earned ?
Friends ? No they will leave too , no one wants to play a game with nothing to be earned and as long as there is items , gear.....etc to be earned people like yourself will come out and say that its unfair or too much .

This thread stinks of the foul stench of lazy .

When I see these type of threads , I am reminded of why I do not buy Fast Food, why when I go to the store I see employees sitting around talking , the Time my Wife came home and told me that a employee asked her if they could do Homework from school at their job , Why are roads are going bad , our internet is the lowest in the world , our schools are failing...................................this list keeps going . I mean why work for anything , lets just pretend and say we did it and get credit for it anyways ......

I get bored of doing CM , AK , and WP spams ...........but if I had everything 100% and all the gear I wanted , I would move on to another game . This game needs more old school ff11 !

[Crescent_Dusk]

Listen, when I go play multiplayer FPS, or an action/adventure game, I don't play it because I want the weapons and then I'm gone.

If your motivation for playing a game is gear and not the raid encounters themselves, then maybe you need to think over why you actually are playing a game that's in its base boring to you, but you put up with its lack of appeal only because you get items for it in the long run.

Those of us that want a separate myth cap or increased myth cap don't do it because we want the items and that's it. We want that ilv90 gear to be able to bring other classes to coil instead of being locked out to just one because if you bring a ilv70 geared alt compared to your ilv 90 main you are gimping the raid.

[Overon]

Listen, when I go play multiplayer FPS, or an action/adventure game, I don't play it because I want the weapons and then I'm gone.

Wrong game for you my friend .......... F2P games are like Fighters , you play them in short spurts to kill your buddies and other people , but eventually they die out .
MMORPG is longterm games , meaning 3-5-10-so on years .

Tell me one title that has had as many players as ff11 and lasted as long that is a FPS ?
Not a following .............. I like many FPSs , but none has had the player base of any Good MMORPGs and for a GOOD REASON.
MMORPGs are designed to last long , they give you goals that take time and effort .

FPSs are about killing other players , not about Role Playing a long Term life in them.........

Final Fantasy XIV is a MMORPG ( massively multiplayer online role-playing game )

Edit: My WHM is a Relic Holder , but only has DL ...........My BLM is a Relic Holder that has DL and 2 pieces of Myth Gear ...........You do not need more than DL for Coil and a Relic , so a Myth Cap increase or sectioned off Job wise does not make a difference other then making it quicker for you to get Myth Gear which is on par with Coil Drops .......................

[Crescent_Dusk]

Wrong game for you my friend .......... F2P games are like Fighters , you play them in short spurts to kill your buddies and other people , but eventually they die out .
MMORPG is longterm games , meaning 3-5-10-so on years .

Tell me one title that has had as many players as ff11 and lasted as long that is a FPS ?
Not a following .............. I like many FPSs , but none has had the player base of any Good MMORPGs and for a GOOD REASON.
MMORPGs are designed to last long , they give you goals that take time and effort .

FPSs are about killing other players , not about Role Playing a long Term life in them.........

Final Fantasy XIV is a MMORPG ( massively multiplayer online role-playing game )

Edit: My WHM is a Relic Holder , but only has DL ...........My BLM is a Relic Holder that has DL and 2 pieces of Myth Gear ...........You do not need more than DL for Coil and a Relic , so a Myth Cap increase or sectioned off Job wise does not make a difference other then making it quicker for you to get Myth Gear which is on par with Coil Drops .......................

Having fun with a group of people and mastering combat mechanics is a goal.

You have a really narrow definition of goals if all goals means to you is paying subscription for months for items that are arbitrarily withheld from you by some slowed down reward system.

They are rewarding you for time spent grinding, not for some feat of skill.

[Overon]

Having fun with a group of people and mastering combat mechanics is a goal.

You have a really narrow definition of goals if all goals means to you is paying subscription for months for items that are arbitrarily withheld from you by some slowed down reward system.

They are rewarding you for time spent grinding, not for some feat of skill.

Well in order to reach goals you have to master combat mechanics or else you do not get wonderful things.........

Again work = Rewards , if no rewards why work........
People who work hard should have extra rewards based on their work and accomplishments .

Sorry you just cannot seem to understand the large picture .

[Crescent_Dusk]

Well in order to reach goals you have to master combat mechanics or else you do not get wonderful things.........

Again work = Rewards , if no rewards why work........
People who work hard should have extra rewards based on their work and accomplishments .

Sorry you just cannot seem to understand the large picture .

THERE IS NO WORK TO GRINDING WP FOR MYTHOLOGY EVERY WEEK.

[MrObject]

Are people seriously saying that the reason people stay in a MMO is because gear is withheld from them?

As I stated in my earlier post as soon as I hit 50 I grinded out my DL set as quickly as possible and suffered from it because I burned myself out from doing all those dungeons so quickly. Do I need to exercise a little self-restraint? Sure, but in reality it was more about the pressure to be in the best gear I could.

When I hit 50 people wanted to get their relic asap, so I needed to be able to tank titan. Tanking titan wasn't impossible in fresh 50 gear but the MB hit wasn't very survivable with low end gear, thus there was pressure put on tanks to get into mostly DL gear asap so that titan could be killed. Since there was no artificial restriction put on philo the excuse people usually used for others who didn't get full DL asap was 'lazy'.