Ff14 A realm unfinished

[Trancery]

LOTS OF WORDS YELLING AT THE PLAYER

Holy shit, this has to be the most idiotic and rage-blinded post I've seen in a while. Game is shallow man, for casual or hardcore. Enough said.

[Nadrojj]

So one thread is not enough for you, you have to start another one stating the exact same thing?
Yesterday: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...too-much-to-do
10/17/2013: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...here-is-my-pvp
9/17/2013: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...vp-pvp-plz-plz
9/9/2013: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rosses-fingers
And then you want even faster speed runs: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ore-speed-runs
While having only 1 class to 50 without a single piece of Allagan/AF+1: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3770674/
Do you have ADHD?

Lol someone just got served.

[Crescent_Dusk]

I don't know about you, but most people who go play MMO's don't go in with the expectation of becoming gatherers/crafters/farmers.

The scope of combat class design and rewards and encounter design far overshadows the assets dedicated to crafting/gathering systems. I can think of MMO's with little crafting/gathering/economy play.

I cannot think of MMO's without combat content. Because the market is overwhelmingly skewed for it.

So don't go pretending like crafting/gathering is an equal alternative to an audience that mostly joins the game for the combat/storyline.

Crafting isn't even content considering you do the same thing to level all crafting classes. You get HQ items, produce HQ goods and turn them in for big exp. You slap some gear on at 50 and do the same thing, except you turn it in to players instead of an NPC.

Executing Coil takes significantly more effort and involvement than doing the same rote rotation of skills a HQ equipped crafter does. My Goldsmith's HQ rotation is pretty simple. All it takes is farming HQ mats.

For people who join this game for interesting combat content, all they have is Coil. That's it. And even coil is cutting it close considering how easy Turn 1-4 is. 4 only begins to get sort of challenging, but nothing on WoW levels of encounter design.

[Lstkaws]

/snip

Key word here being MOST rather than ALL. Do not make the mistake of thinking that because it is not important to the majority that it is entirely irrelevant. It adds something to the game, granted it may not be as much as battle content, but we do not know what may become of these classes; they may play a far bigger role than we now see.

If you do not want to do these jobs you do not have to, but you are (by your own decision) removing content that is there. Yes the game is a bit shallow for everything at this point, but it's two months in so why not try some other content. Some of this may become more relevant in later patches or expansions.

[luggz]

If all you care about is endgame then yeah, sucks to be you. Meanwhile I'm having tons of fun making money in the game by crafting and grinding. And I still have quite a few more crafting/gathering classes to get to 50.

Ok that's great but the money will soon dry out when everyone and there sister is max everything
As it stands now I can go in any city and find a crafter literally 12 of them sitting next to each other grinding away next to the market board seeing such great content at there little stations and the logs

I guess if i need something crafted i deff won't have a hard time finding someone since the only thing people can argue about is ---
Omg he only has one class and no crafting professions and he's crying no content

The mass drones of crafters/gathers will come to an end when everybody maxes everything

In short how many leather workers does an fc need 100 and I guess an fc need 75 goldsmiths as well

Seriously tab back into the game and just look around at how many people are sitting by the market board just grinding away at crafting

[Lstkaws]

Ok that's great but the money will soon dry out when everyone and there sister is max everything
As it stands now I can go in any city and find a crafter literally 12 of them sitting next to each other grinding away next to the market board seeing such great content at there little stations and the logs

I guess if i need something crafted i deff won't have a hard time finding someone since the only thing people can argue about is ---
Omg he only has one class and no crafting professions and he's crying no content

The mass drones of crafters/gathers will come to an end when everybody maxes everything

In short how many leather workers does an fc need 100 and I guess an fc need 75 goldsmiths as well

Seriously tab back into the game and just look around at how many people are sitting by the market board just grinding away at crafting

Is this Rokien?

[aswedishtiger]

So one thread is not enough for you, you have to start another one stating the exact same thing?
Yesterday: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...too-much-to-do
10/17/2013: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...here-is-my-pvp
9/17/2013: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...vp-pvp-plz-plz
9/9/2013: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rosses-fingers
And then you want even faster speed runs: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ore-speed-runs
While having only 1 class to 50 without a single piece of Allagan/AF+1: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3770674/
Do you have ADHD?

this guy demolished OP, owned this whole thread and effectively ended all arguments.

gg

[Ksenia]

Holy shit, this has to be the most idiotic and rage-blinded post I've seen in a while. Game is shallow man, for casual or hardcore. Enough said.

It isn't so much that it's shallow. It's sneaky.
All roads lead to grind.

Level 5 tier in Weaver achievement 3000 Synthesis. 30 stacks of Felt, easy enough. That's only 6000 Fleece, 3000 snurble tufts, 15,000 Lightening shards, 15,000 Wind shards.

Suddenly 30 stacks of felt is 6 months of mash and grind.

That's just one example. The game is full of these escalating grind scams.

[Swishytail]

My favorite part of this entire thread? People that seem to think FFXIV is the only MMO to contain:

-Grinding
-60-80 of the same craft in one Guild/Free Company/Linkshell
-Gear sets that make people look identical
-Lockouts

I want to read more, please.

[Ksenia]

My favorite part of this entire thread? People that seem to think FFXIV is the only MMO to contain:

-Grinding
-60-80 of the same craft in one Guild/Free Company/Linkshell
-Gear sets that make people look identical
-Lockouts

I want to read more, please.

Agreed and people here don't play those games because they are just cloned, Asian grinder games.

Sorry for the high expectations. On the bright side we know what to say at the funeral. Here lies Fail Farming 14. Generic.