Tank HP Requirements For Endgame DF Content

[CianaIezuborn]

Assuming 30 vit in bonus stats but without grouping bonus (I keep getting lazy and not checking the exact group bonus):
AF1 + AV aetherial fillers + HQ amber accessories + cobalt lantern shield = 4403 hp
Full WP armor + HQ amber accessories + DL belt + WP weapon/shield = 4592hp
Full AK armor + AK accessories + DL belt + DL ring + WP weapon/shield = 4911 hp
Full DL + Myth ring + Garuda sword + WP shield = 5447 hp
Full Ilvl90 gear = 6578 hp (Guess I can tank Titan after the expansion?)

With your numbers, you will basically never tank any encounter that you can possibly receive an upgrade from. So what you're saying is that the tanks in Duty finder are there for the sole purpose of providing you with a cushy run through. You're asking to much, especially from df groups. In all actuality, the starting 4400 hp on a paladin is enough to tank all encounters pre-Titan, with Garuda being the only hard hitter. On Garuda, proper cycling of cooldowns while the damage buff add is up will still let you get by with less than 5k hp.

With that being said, few things for new tanks:
1. 30 vit as bonus stats, no ifs, ands, or buts. That's 435 of your initial hp pool, I think the only way you could have a 50 tank with less than 4k hp is if you dumped your points into something besides vitality.
2. Go to the market board, and buy amber rings, bracelet, earring and a militia choker. Get HQ if they're not to expensive, when I hit 50 I dropped about 25k on full HQ amber and a normal militia choker. They may have inflated in price since then, however at the very least grab the NQ versions (5 vit nq vs 6 vit hq I believe).
3. If you still have a lot of cash, buy an HQ Aeolian Scimitar or the warrior equivalent. You will need to purchase one of these eventually for your relic quest, however make sure you DO NOT turn in the scimitar step until you've gotten either the GC weapon, dark light weapon, or a primal weapon to replace it.
4. Shields are few and far between, if you see a cobalt lantern shield up for a decent price or you have an armorsmith buddy that can make one grab it. The materials are cheap, and the only shield before a titan kill is darklight from WP which honestly isn't worth purposefully farming over AK armor drops. Once you have all your slots filled with AK + DL and just need philo tomes you'll be doing WP anyway, so you may pick it up as a consequence of that but don't delay AK hoplite farming just to grab your shield.

[CianaIezuborn]

While playing my WHM too often will I come across tanks that come into my Duty Finder PUG and believe they are fully capable of clearing the content with ease. MAYBE this is because you, the tank, are used to clearing things with Relic DPS or heals? But when you come to a duty finder to do an instance, ASSUME you will be paired with average gear players with average mental capacities.

Just reread as: Tanks make sure you're severely over-geared for DF content so that you can carry everyone else. Now I kinda wish I hadn't have provided a serious response.

[InVizO]

lol, all you whiners that can't meet such easy requirements (did 10 random pug runs yesterday, all met requirements) need to run CASTRUM MERIDIAN or PRAETORIUM more, they serve a purpose, to get you 2 pieces of darklight before moving on, you guys are that lazy you wont farm one of two 8-man dungeons to allow 7 others to carry you instead of 3. keep up the QQ, i question why the in-game trolls are cool and the forum trolls are just cry babies, be gone like the all too many infant-imps I get in-game.

edit: and yes everyone seems to miss the term Duty Finder, not invite pickups or FC groups, where kicking an imbecile is an option.

[InVizO]

And by "haters" you mean people using common sense? Your attitude shows what is happen a lot in the Game; "Relic+1, FULL DL for AK/WP onry." You are simply trying to compensate your own shortcomings with your initial Post, since 8k HP are pathetic for Titan.

By Your Logic a "new" Player, or someone working on his first WAR/PLD Relic would be never able to beat Titan, since without certain Gear you simply will not reach those Numbers and a good amount of that Gear is coming from Coil/Myth. Just with DL Gear you will not reach 8k HP on Warrior. lol

like this guy, obviously he missed "duty finder" I think I can safely lump the rest of the QQers in with him; not using their heads.

[Kal-El]

I beat Titan with a Duty Finder group.

DL with hoplite top and head with Garuda Weapon...

5.5k for Garuda? I hope you're talking about WAR otherwise you'd have to be a very shit PLD to need that much HP.

[PessimiStick]

OP is either trolling super-hard, or mentally retarded. Not sure which.

[Avalon_Albrook]

Everything you've said, up to and including:

lol, all you whiners that can't meet such easy requirements (did 10 random pug runs yesterday, all met requirements) need to run CASTRUM MERIDIAN or PRAETORIUM more, they serve a purpose, to get you 2 pieces of darklight before moving on, you guys are that lazy you wont farm one of two 8-man dungeons to allow 7 others to carry you instead of 3. keep up the QQ, i question why the in-game trolls are cool and the forum trolls are just cry babies, be gone like the all too many infant-imps I get in-game.

edit: and yes everyone seems to miss the term Duty Finder, not invite pickups or FC groups, where kicking an imbecile is an option.

[CianaIezuborn]

like this guy, obviously he missed "duty finder" I think I can safely lump the rest of the QQers in with him; not using their heads.

I think you're missing their point, they're saying if you need a severely over geared tank to complete these dungeons, you're not an "average" player with "average" mental facilities. You're closer to the 3ft with floaties side of the player skill pool. Just saying.

[InVizO]

I think you're missing their point, they're saying if you need a severely over geared tank to complete these dungeons, you're not an "average" player with "average" mental facilities. You're closer to the 3ft with floaties side of the player skill pool. Just saying.

Meh, my skills speak for themselves in game. I've carried many peeps and Titan is nothing new to me. I unlike many others get the proper gear before moving along in the content and carrying my own weight and some.

I just choose to not spend 20mins or more on undergeared players because they can't farm the content in a linear fashion.

[Seriat]

This is by far the best OP I have read this week. I do thank you for the great belly laugh (8k HP for Titan.. really?)

Now one serious question: Where do you get your smoke, and is your dealer looking for more customers? Must be some awesome stuff if you can spout what you did in the OP with a straight face.