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    CyanDvai's Avatar
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    Cyan Dvai
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Allagan Body:
    Def: 158
    str: 29
    vit: 33
    parry: 24
    acc: 34


    Valor Body:
    Def: 158
    str: 29
    vit: 33
    parry: 34
    determination: 17

    Hmm... Allagan isn't really all that better. You get more parry with AF2 and Determination which affects how much you are healed for.
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanDvai View Post
    Hmm... Allagan isn't really all that better. You get more parry with AF2 and Determination which affects how much you are healed for.
    No, it doesn't.
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    James Carver
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanDvai View Post
    Allagan Body:
    Def: 158
    str: 29
    vit: 33
    parry: 24
    acc: 34


    Valor Body:
    Def: 158
    str: 29
    vit: 33
    parry: 34
    determination: 17

    Hmm... Allagan isn't really all that better. You get more parry with AF2 and Determination which affects how much you are healed for.
    Determination does not effect how much you are healed for that's just a bad translation what it does is affect the potency of your cures and is basically .5 str however without the parry str gain.

    Things determination would effect is blood bath, and cure atleast for a pld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James1213 View Post
    that's just a bad translation what it does is affect the potency of your cures and is basically
    Thanks for your statement James, at least you gave feed back as for Aria Placida who simple said "No, it doesn't." with no explanation at all, not very helpful.
    But yes, I can see where I read the description for Determination wrong after I went back and relooked at it.

    "Affects the amount of damage dealt by both physical and magic attacks, as wells as the amount of HP restored by healing spells. auto-attack potency is also affected."

    The difference is still minuscule between the two.
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    Elendil Voronda
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanDvai View Post
    Allagan Body:
    Def: 158
    str: 29
    vit: 33
    parry: 24
    acc: 34


    Valor Body:
    Def: 158
    str: 29
    vit: 33
    parry: 34
    determination: 17

    Hmm... Allagan isn't really all that better. You get more parry with AF2 and Determination which affects how much you are healed for.
    Determination does NOT affect how much you are healed for. I tested it with a fellow WHM. Determination affects how much your healing spells actually cure and also increment a little bit your damage output. Thats why you see DET in healer gear.

    For PLD Cure spell is useless so for us its only useful to increment DPS and thus emnity but still is quite small compared to strength, you need to add 5/6 DET to achieve the same that 1 STR gives you in DPS.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...e_the_healing/

    Also in Coils of Bahamut the higher level enemies have quite a bit of evasion and if you dont have the appropiate amount of accuracy you will miss a lot of hits, for Tanks this is bad because it breaks you emnity combos.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...itical_hit_or/

    You are free to test all this yourself with a parser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elendil_Voronda View Post
    Determination does NOT affect how much you are healed for.
    I guess you didn't read my post after that huh?
    But thanks for pointing out what I already corrected myself on, you're awesome. </sarcasm>
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