For those that keep asking "Why the **** do you play on PS3!?!?"

[Gilraen]

Well, if being on a PC is a 'basic requirement' then why is it we see the devs playing on PS3s every time there's a Live Letter? Clearly they must know they are 'doing it wrong', it's their game. Or... There's going to be bad players on both consoles but we on the PS3 don't condemn the whole of the PC community over their bad players, why must you condemn the whole of us over the same? I think that's called a 'double standard'? As is evident, there are alot of good PS3 players to offset the bad, just as there is on the PC. Instead of being short-sighted why not expand your view and accept what you see instead of what you 'see'. That or turn your monitor brightness down and take off the sunglasses.

[Soukyuu]

Then somehow i'm the elitist for not wanting them in my coil party because they are the one's who aren't willing to meet the basic requirements.

Whose basic requirements? Yours? The reason SE refused to build in a voice chat solution was because it 1) wasn't necessary for the encounters 2) they did not want to make voice chat necessary. Voice chat is not required for the game. Nice to have, yes. Required? No.

Well, if being on a PC is a 'basic requirement' then why is it we see the devs playing on PS3s every time there's a Live Letter? Clearly they must know they are 'doing it wrong', it's their game. Or... There's going to be bad players on both consoles but we on the PS3 don't condemn the whole of the PC community over their bad players, why must you condemn the whole of us over the same? I think that's called a 'double standard'? As is evident, there are alot of good PS3 players to offset the bad, just as there is on the PC. Instead of being short-sighted why not expand your view and accept what you see instead of what you 'see'. That or turn your monitor brightness down and take off the sunglasses.

I have a feeling it's more of a "I am bad with a controller, so everyone else must be as well"

[Rivienne]

This a million times over

"i'm on ps3 i can't get on ts,mumble etc" Let me get this straight so just because youre on PS· you are unable to get any modern mobile device available in pretty much every household that has the luxury of paying for a subscription fee game on a video game console? I find it hard to believe you don't have the money for a smartphone. laptop etc but do indeed have the money for a subscription based MMO 60 dollars to shell on a videogame and the console?
They don't do it because they are lazy annoying people, who can't be bothered.

Then somehow i'm the elitist for not wanting them in my coil party because they are the one's who aren't willing to meet the basic requirements.

I can't to do voice chat, be it on PC or PS3. If it is needed, count me out. Same reason I don't allow talking in a car if I am driving. I can talk, listen, or actually focus on what I am doing. Don't ask me to do all three at the same time or my ability to do all of them will be compromised.

Furthermore not everyone is "lazy" or can't be bothered. And even then. On your cell phone comment, that is clearly a bit naive. I know people who play video games on a PS3 and don't have a smart phone or computer. And no just because you can afford a one time game fee and a monthly cheaper game fee, doesn't somehow mean you also have the money to buy a smart phone/laptop etc. Most people you will find who are playing this game on a PS3 have had it for awhile. They didn't buy the console for the game. Who does?

Text chat is perfectly fine for me, and I know of others who have done up through coil 4 on text only. So while you may not in your group accept it, that doesn't make it a basic requirement for the game either.

Well, if being on a PC is a 'basic requirement' then why is it we see the devs playing on PS3s every time there's a Live Letter? Clearly they must know they are 'doing it wrong', it's their game. Or... There's going to be bad players on both consoles but we on the PS3 don't condemn the whole of the PC community over their bad players, why must you condemn the whole of us over the same? I think that's called a 'double standard'? As is evident, there are alot of good PS3 players to offset the bad, just as there is on the PC. Instead of being short-sighted why not expand your view and accept what you see instead of what you 'see'. That or turn your monitor brightness down and take off the sunglasses.

Yes, I often find myself with amazingly good PS3 players. Some of the best players I have come across are on PS3. Some of the worst I have come across are also on PS3. Sadly I think the problem is people already have a bias going in, and see the bad ones, and automatically assume it proves their bias.

I... am not sure why you quoted me.

I am not sure either. Glitch moment. Reply fail? Chalk it up to trying to comment on something while I was busy at work.

Fixed it/made my comments more obvious.

[AdvancedWind]

Cool story inc...

ADS boss in coil turn 2 @ 5% with only a bard (aka Dan) alive.

Ventrilo Convo (word for word):

Me: "Dan! Limit break!"
Dan: "I don- I don't have limit break on my PS3 controller" (dies)
<Everyone on vent were shocked then started laughing and facepalming>
Dan: "I don't ever have to use it guys. I'm a bard. (Brief pause) Hold on. Let me put it on the bar real quick."

/coolstory


TL;DR - Unless you're on dat dere poverty time, then there's no reason to not play on a PC.

I play on PC using a controller, not having easy access to any skill is the player's fault, not the platform.

[Ralemont]

Voice chat is nice but by no means required. Required: Competent players that now how to play their jobs and the strat of the dungeon.

Also at cool story guy face-palming a bard not bar'ing his LB: Clearly that guy not having it on his bar is why you wiped.

[kollwitz]

sorry guys, but i rather spend my money on records and weekend long drug binges in german underground techno clubs than staring at a mi'qote ass in HD resolution.. :\

[Aerostein]

Snip.(Char limits way too short!)

Yeah, uhh... no. So much not this, to be honest. It's true smart phones are becoming common nowadays, but it is ignorant to expect everyone to have one. It is very foolish to assume one's financial capabilities just because they play a subscription MMO, imo. I have a smart phone myself and I am using it as I make this post in fact, but the only Voip I can get on my current version is Skype. (Maybe google hangouts too, if that counts?) I'm not going to upgrade my phone nor get an iphone/droid, just for this game when it currently suits my needs fine now.

My PC isn't even anywhere near my PS3. I'm not going to rearrange things in my house in order for that to work, when it's not needed. If that makes me 'lazy' and 'annoying', then so be it. In coil now, no problems so far.

[Lelouch001]

Well at least this thread proved one thing, and its that ps3 players are no better than the people they complain about.

[Ryios]

Whats not to like about playing games on my PC. I lay in bed with a wireless keyboard/mouse and a controller just like someone on a PS3. I have a 50" HDTV I play on just like someone on a PS3. PC's have this awesome thing on new graphics cards called an HDMI Port. They also have this weird audio thingy called the Line Out Jack. Oh and let's not forget the Blue Tooth controller thingy that keyboard can talk to and or the 20 usb ports it has to PS3's 2 where I can use a controller adapter to use my PS3 Controller on my PC.

Just because you play on a PC doesn't mean your sitting in a chair at some desk hunched over with a screen 2 inches from your face.

Half the problem with people playing games like this is about 25% of the gaming community is technological smart (builds their own pc's, can write computer programs and app's for phones etc etc), and the other 75% does work in life where they don't know much about technology but are 100% dependent on it. So you have a group of people that has their stuff tweaked to perfection trying to play peacefully with a group of people who just plugs everything in to the color coded jacks and hopes it all works.

When I encounter people lagging badly, and moving funny, I try to help them configure their stuff better, but am generally met with "This is how I like to play, the server's lagging not me (partially true but not 100% true), don't tell me how to play the game etc etc so I just give up and run with people who don't lag and tell me they play with WAS and the mouse to move the camera"

PS3 and PS4 basically are PC's. They are computers in closed boxes with controlled hardware and a customized OS. That's all they are. Except said closed box is old enough that current PC's Blow them Away.

[Sixmp]

I was talking about selecting a specific mob that need to be tagged, killed asap or wipe; inside a cluster of 8 other mobs. So no NPC filter can help you.

You presume that your mouse placement will be good in this example you give. What if your mouse pointer can't even select the right mob as the other mobs are blocking it. You see i too can come up with various situations where things will not be 100% perfect. It doesn't mean that Pad works and if you actually read this thread you would see that there are people are stating that it works perfectly fine.