Myth tomb cap should be per job

[HiirNoivl]

What happened to helping each other?

I'll tell you what happened.


You CAN'T help your FC. That's another problem. If you clear Coil into later stages in the raid then you can't go back to help anyone else on that character You're done for that week. That's why FC raiding is so problematic for Coil. No one's being selfish. In fact, people are doing the UNselfish thing and taking the time out to level alts just so that they CAN help others.

This is the problem. People have no idea that at endgame that is the END of the game as in you cannot progress any more on that character. You're at a near standstill. Even though you have "all this other stuff you can do", it's basically a subscription game of solitaire, a distraction for when you have too much time on your hands, but in the end, there's no progress at all.

If they just said, "The heck with it, no caps, No Lockouts, no Resets! Run Coil until you go into Cardiac Arrest!" the Armory system alone would provide more than enough endgame distractions as you ran Coil until you were geared on all jobs.

Instead you have 50 threads talking about how bored and frustrated people are. Great.

[Youngsun]

Yes! I, too, come from XI, and even still have friends I made there 8 years later. It saddens me that it has come to this.

[Swishytail]

If they just said, "The heck with it, no caps, No Lockouts, no Resets! Run Coil until you go into Cardiac Arrest!" the Armory system alone would provide more than enough endgame distractions as you ran Coil until you were geared on all jobs.

Instead you have 50 threads talking about how bored and frustrated people are. Great.

^ These 2 statements go hand-in-hand. Get rid of all restrictions, people run Coil 18x/day, get geared...
then it's back to 50 threads about being bored.

[HiirNoivl]

^ These 2 statements go hand-in-hand. Get rid of all restrictions, people run Coil 18x/day, get geared...
then it's back to 50 threads about being bored.

You wouldn't be bored because Coil is fun. And helping people in your FC is fun. You could do like people do in Titan and try to run it in Swimsuits. Or try to 4 man Caduceus... or something epic like that.

But you can do none of these things 6/7 days of the week. Unless you level more than one character. Which makes the armory system obsolete. We should not, regardless of how new the game is, have this many bored people 6 weeks after release. 6 weeks of this new game and we're already leveling new characters? What is that?

It's bad. That's what it is. In 1.0 for all it's problems I had 1 character. That's it, just one. Now I'm planning on 5. Not even because I'm some content locust. It's so I have ACCESS to content.

I can't even do anything in game unless I do this. How can anyone think this makes any sense at all?

[Swishytail]

You wouldn't be bored because Coil is fun. And helping people in your FC is fun.

But you can do none of these things 6/7 days of the week. Unless you level more than one character.

AK was fun at first, too. So was helping FC members get gear in there. That is, until the 187th run came around.
Coil would be no different. You really think Coil would still be fun running it 6-7x/day? I'd give it 2 weeks maximum
until people blew up the forums demanding 10 more raids because Coil is boring.

I almost want Square to take off every restriction to see the chaos, but I know it won't happen.

[Dhex]

You wouldn't be bored because Coil is fun. And helping people in your FC is fun. You could do like people do in Titan and try to run it in Swimsuits. Or try to 4 man Caduceus... or something epic like that.

But you can do none of these things 6/7 days of the week. Unless you level more than one character. Which makes the armory system obsolete. We should not, regardless of how new the game is, have this many bored people 6 weeks after release. 6 weeks of this new game and we're already leveling new characters? What is that?

It's bad. That's what it is. In 1.0 for all it's problems I had 1 character. That's it, just one. Now I'm planning on 5. Not even because I'm some content locust. It's so I have ACCESS to content.

I can't even do anything in game unless I do this. How can anyone think this makes any sense at all?

:Q Hiir what's your alts name let's level together! xD!!

[HiirNoivl]

I almost want Square to take off every restriction to see the chaos, but I know it won't happen.

What chaos are you talking about? People have this perception that players get bored just because they run the content over and over... no players get bored when there's nothing to do in game!

People realized early the disappointing truth that there was 0 point to running AK once you get geared with all Darklight because you can cap your mythtomes in Turns 1-4. See once you hit Coil that's when you reach the bitter end of 2.0 and start paint-drying excitement of waiting for 2.1 so that you can have something else to do... that's when you realize that you'll still be doing Coil because the Crystal Tower isn't even progression for you. That's when you realize that if you want to play WAR and SMN at level 90 it will be on two separate characters....

And that's when you realize that you're not in Kansas any more Toto.

:Q Hiir what's your alts name let's level together! xD!!

Monmeru Pendragon! All my characters will be based on my fanfiction. ^_^

[Swishytail]

All this stuff.

Wrong, people DO get bored of running things over and over and over. I'm fairly certain there were endless posts of people hating doing AK over and over before they spread out the tomes a bit. Same with CM.

Your bit about people having nothing to do in game. Make Coil unlimited. People gear all their jobs in iLvl 90 gear in a month. Then what? Nothing to do in game. The cycle continues. Getting rid of caps/lockouts will not make everything rainbows.

The fact is, people are just never going to be happy no matter what happens. You can hand everyone everything in the game and have 50 raids, and it still won't be good enough.

And as cliche as it has become, honestly, if people are going to be pissed off 24/7 at a game, why continue? Quit, play something else, play some console games which there are a ton of excellent ones out right now. Square isn't going to add 90,000 hours of content next week, sorry.

[HiirNoivl]

Your bit about people having nothing to do in game. Make Coil unlimited. People gear all their jobs in iLvl 90 gear in a month.

People will gear out their jobs in less than a month? Ohhh you mean kinda like how they have already... . People are already standing around in their Relic +1 ilevel90 stuff. As in, they're already leveling their next character to do the same thing in record time. As in the lock outs didn't solve this problem.

We'll cap our mains and secondaries in the few weeks before and the few weeks after 2.1. I like the game I really do, I don't like how I'm not allowed to play it without this leveling 1 character for each day of the week.

[Shaddix]

SE Devs you don't know what you're talking about. Just like you didn't know what you were talking about in 1.0.