Congrats Yoshi P. on your promotion

[Seiryuukishi]

now i know you are simply excusing anything. they not only knew how many codes sold for pre orders they knew the vast majority of them LONG before early release because they had them already sold long before the last week. but that aside 2 months before OB they (SE) announced 1 million applications to beta. this is not numbers out of the blue.
they knew the extent of the player base they were faced with well before either of the two times the servers were squashed. that they didn't prepare for it is obvious and trying to say they didn't see it coming is lip service/ PR snowballing people like you who believed it.

Regardless of knowing how many digital sales they made they cannot have know how many hard copies would sale for pc and ps3 as there is no way to keep track of it globally. Even if they kept track of the digitals the shear number of players who bought disks of the game overwhelmed the servers thus making your argument invalid.

[vincent1]

I do not really see how you can congratulate somebody with the awful mess that the issue of positional lag (and lag in general) has created in this game. there are several very long threads with complaints about it, and I would guess at this point about 200+ pages if the 3 or 4 largest threads are counted.

2000+ complaints about a problem that existed in beta, and was never fixed properly.

I would congratulate him if he can get this problem fixed in a timely manner.

[CatofNineTails]

Regardless of knowing how many digital sales they made they cannot have know how many hard copies would sale for pc and ps3 as there is no way to keep track of it globally. Even if they kept track of the digitals the shear number of players who bought disks of the game overwhelmed the servers thus making your argument invalid.

you are wrong again actually. they knew exactly to the single digit how many codes were issued for access. everyone who wanted access to OB had to register prior to OB each hard copy had to have a code submitted to get access for EA and every copy hard or digital had the early access code to again gain access to the game these were not sent out blindly they knew how many they generated and did not set up to meet the known demand. at every step they had advance warning of the total numbers they faced.

[Bizniztyme]

you are wrong again actually. they knew exactly to the single digit how many codes were issued for access. everyone who wanted access to OB had to register prior to OB each hard copy had to have a code submitted to get access for EA and every copy hard or digital had the early access code to again gain access to the game these were not sent out blindly they knew how many they generated and did not set up to meet the known demand. at every step they had advance warning of the total numbers they faced.

What about all the people that bought 1.0 that came back to try the game again, how are you going to count how many of those people actually came back?

[CatofNineTails]

What about all the people that bought 1.0 that came back to try the game again, how are you going to count how many of those people actually came back?

everyone 1.0 or other had to put their code in to gain access to OB and the launch but that aside if you have 1 million applications for beta and you set up for 250k players and hen see 3-400k sales of codes it behooves you to make 3-400k of capacity at the very least because its a sold product. its like a jean company taking 300,000 pre sales for a new jean and only producing 250k jeans and telling the rest they can stand in line at the stores for a chance at a pair if the store isn't completely sold out yet.

[Reslin]

its like a jean company taking 300,000 pre sales for a new jean and only producing 250k jeans and telling the rest they can stand in line at the stores for a chance at a pair if the store isn't completely sold out yet.

Except here's the problem. In mmo's after release there's always a drop off. Create too many servers without seeing how many stay creates the problem where when the drop off occurs the underpopulated servers become ghost towns. Then you bleed even more players because the ones that are still playing leave in frustration due to not having enough people to play with. Oh, but no biggy. Just merge servers right? No matter how successful the game when you merge the players freak out and word spreads that the game is dying. Then more people abandon ship thinking that the game is sinking. More people leave, other lower populated servers become even lower, and guess what? More servers need merging. Rinse and repeat.